I’m becoming more aware of this (and therefore concerned about it). Who else can I follow/read? Who else is sounding the alarm?
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John Ioannidis:https://twitter.com/zooko/status/602339347518492672 …
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BTW I'm so glad to hear you say this! You are the sort of person I've been thinking of recently, with a little bit of despair: https://twitter.com/zooko/status/1118979330657243136 …,https://twitter.com/zooko/status/1119625059914735616 …
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zooko @zookoI know, you're thinking "it's normal for a fringe to rail against mainstream science", and I agree that is normal, but it is easy to see that's not what's happening here, for example because of WHO vs HSPH, or the Nina Teicholz BMJ retraction scandal. Something big is afoot.Show this thread1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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I guess you might be thinking "oh—nutrition... I'd rather not try to think about that. It's too subtle and complicated. It's actually determined by human psychology (gluttony and sloth). It's idiosyncratic to genetics and to individuals..." ...
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... Don't be dissuaded. *Those are the defense mechanisms of the dominant pseudoscience.* Human nutrition is objectively the most important field for public policy today, and you should be able to convince yourself in only a couple of hours of study that something is rotten.
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I have been ranting about this since 1988… https://meaningness.com/nutrition pic.twitter.com/o1KQzZKbzc
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I've read your rants! I think you may be falling for a "scorched earth retreat" from the dominant faction, who have been quietly replacing their long-standing strong claims and prescriptions with "actually nobody knows anything" over the last ten years...
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It's an interesting method of historical revisionism from them. Having been loudly, confidently wrong, and having held all of the levers of power for decades, they can't admit that their skeptics were right all along but instead claim "actually nobody knows anything".
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Well fwiw I read a fair amount of the nutrition literature, including from dissenting factions, at a “lay person who has done graduate work in biochemistry” level, and although I’d love to believe paleo is true because it’s so tasty, the evidential base doesn’t look much better.
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Without needing to vet paleo or any other niche ideas, you can identify major positions that the nutrition mainstream promoted strongly and consistently and that shape entire nations today, which they (the same people), have subsequently quietly backed away from.
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Oh, absolutely. I think the general public has caught on to this, in fact. Nutrition at this point is taken seriously only by the sorts of people who take astrology seriously.
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That hits close to home.
It makes me sad, because actually there is such vast opportunity for advancement of human knowledge and welfare if we only had a functioning scientific process on this topic.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Yes… but… It’s true that nutrition as a discipline is utterly corrupt and every bad scientific practice is rife there. OTOH, “knowledge of X would be super valuable” does not imply “we have any current way of gaining knowledge of X.”
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