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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      > I think I had a concept of one big path & one big goal This idea mostly comes from Western Perennialism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perennial_philosophy …pic.twitter.com/FMnMlz86mB

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    2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      However, political conflicts between Buddhisms were also often smoothed over by declaring that they were different paths to the same goal. This is plainly false; different Buddhisms have radically different goals, and concepts of “enlightenment.”https://vividness.live/2012/09/13/epistemology-and-enlightenment/ …

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    3. Malcolm  ☣️cean - check sense of smell  👃 —  🌎 🇨🇦‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 19 Apr 2019
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      Reading this article, it occurs to me that you'd be interested in this attempt to translate the Buddha's teaching into totally modern language. And, of course, I'd be curious to hear your take on it. https://www.facebook.com/romeostevens/posts/10215386227941544 …

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      I’ve met Romeo and really liked him and was impressed with him. And I think there’s value in this piece he wrote (I saw it before on LW, but thanks for the pointer!). The opening para is right-on, e.g. I have some problems with other parts though…pic.twitter.com/wJQby3Celw

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      First of all, we don’t know what the Buddha said, if he even existed. “So, I am now going to tell you what the Buddha REALLY said” is the standard way new versions of Buddhism have always been introduced, but it’s nonsense. https://vividness.live/2015/11/25/what-the-buddha-really-said/ …pic.twitter.com/5WT8VPKaMv

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      Every new form of Buddhism, for 2000+ plus years, has been some previous form mashed up with some non-Buddhist stuff, so it’s fine to do that, but it’s silly at this point to pretend it’s not what you are doing. And this, for example, is just not at all in any previous version.pic.twitter.com/bxtGYqmbGh

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      The version of Buddhism he seems to be drawing on is roughly the Daniel Ingram version, which is a severalth-order derivative of the Mahasi version, which is a severalth-order derivative of 1800s Theravada.

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      This doesn’t make it not-Buddhism, but it does make it not at all The One Correct Buddhism. It’s a quite extreme outlier among Buddhisms.

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      It’s also one that I, personally, don’t care for. It seems to work for many people, up to a point at least. But it’s important to recognize that it is only one approach among many, and that other versions are very different, and may work better for at least some people.

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    10. Gary Basin  💡‏ @garybasin 19 Apr 2019
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      It would be nice to have a collection of different versions steelmanned in similar colloquial language

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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      Well, each does have its advocates, who do present it in reasonably contemporary English

      10:47 PM - 19 Apr 2019
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        2. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 19 Apr 2019
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          I guess what’s generally missing is clear comparisons. That’s difficult because few people have practiced disparate systems deeply enough. And actually few people even understand their own systems clearly enough to explain their fundamental principles.

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        3. Malcolm  ☣️cean - check sense of smell  👃 —  🌎 🇨🇦‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 19 Apr 2019
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          This makes me think the distinctions might need to be presented as dialogues. So you could present a similar core engine of Dzogchen (if that's a meaningful notion) and then you & Romeo could ask each other clarifying questions: "Ahh, so does that step involve...?" etc

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