This realization was prompted in part by reflecting on @mattgoldenberg's 2×2 that distinguishes mahayana & hinayana(=theravada?).https://twitter.com/mattgoldenberg/status/1115576370103562242 …
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Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Matt Goldenberg
This realization was prompted in part by reflecting on @mattgoldenberg's 2×2 that distinguishes mahayana & hinayana(=theravada?).https://twitter.com/mattgoldenberg/status/1115576370103562242 …
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 added,
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦
Speaking of which, I'm very interested in @Meaningness' take on the 2×2×2 I made by incorporating the rough structure of attachment styles. Does Tantra have a location on there?https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1115661362200502272 …
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 added,
Uh... I wasn't sure what all the axes were there?
The axes on my 2×2×2 are a bit confused, because I added the colorful grid diagonally, basically dissolving the original {individualist-collectivist} axis into being a function of both avoidance and anxiety (as separate axes). Note that it's not intended to be about attachment...
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 Retweeted Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦
...but about some more general underlying thing, like "closeness" and "autonomy".https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1115663179810574337 …
Malcolm ☣️cean - check sense of smell 👃 — 🌎 🇨🇦 added,
Hmm. I don’t think the sutra/tantra distinction relates to this at all. Tantra, in particular, is mostly not about individual psychology, nor about human relationships as they are understood in Western psychotherapeutic terms.
Would love to see you elaborate on this! What's the difference between the tantric and psychotherapeutic views here? I have two guesses, one about "true self" and one about locating relationships in minds vs. in interactions...?
Well... they are such different systems that it's hard to bring them together to compare them at all. People have been doing so since at least Jung, so apparently it's tempting and makes some sort of sense. I admit to doing it myself too, while worrying it's a mistake.
For the most part, tantra just doesn't talk about everyday human relationships at all. And it also just doesn't talk about everyday personal psychology at all. However, it's tempting to take what it does say and try to apply it to personal psychology and relationships, >
> and that does seem to yield valuable insights. But it's a dubious enterprise.
However, I think your second guess is accurate: if you look at interpersonal relationships with tantra in mind, you’re likely to see them interactionally rather than mentally. This book is about that. (Warnings: content difficult; link may be nsfw.)https://amzn.to/2XoFsmU
Mmmm, interaction. Btw @QiaochuYuan I've read that book (~2y ago) and I also think you'd like it.
I think I would too! But my stack of books to read is already so high (for me anyway):pic.twitter.com/rEHLHT0uju
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