There’s a massively important distinction between yanas and sects, which are orthogonal classification schemes. Most Western Buddhists don’t know about this, and get confused. Theravada is a sect, not a yana.https://vividness.live/2013/11/25/yanas-are-not-buddhist-sects/ …
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Theravada includes Mahayana and Vajrayana:https://vividness.live/2013/11/28/tantric-theravada-and-modern-vajrayana/ …
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When I wrote that some years ago, there was very little information about tantric Theravada on the web, but now the wiki article is quite good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantric_Theravada …
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Yanas are defined by principles and functions, whereas sects are defined by institutions.https://approachingaro.org/principles-and-functions …
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Modern Buddhism combines Western principles and functions with some Buddhist elements. Since its core is largely 1800s German philosophy, it is does not fit into any of the traditional yanas. Several major Buddhist sects developed modern versions though.https://vividness.live/2011/06/16/the-making-of-buddhist-modernism/ …
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Most of the currently-popular American Buddhist brands are derived from a mash-up of 1970s hippie ideals and '80s psychotherapy with Mahasi Sayadaw's mid-1900s mash-up of 1800s modernist Theravada Hinayana with then-current Western pop philosophy.
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(I can send you links for my blog posts on each of the stages of that sequence of mixing Western ideas into Theravada if you are want to be bored by the historical details :)
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It's not clear how much Buddhism is left in that, if any. However, there seems to be a significant remaining renunciate flavor (left over from the Hinayana roots), which is
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Principles thing is helpful! Things I'm still confused about: - do people who successfully follow renunciate paths end up renunciate forever? is this considered correct, or an accident? - how does that relate to the idea that one might switch back & forth between sutra & trantra?
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- is the previous confusion coming from the fact that lots of people do only renunciate, & lots of people do both? (are there people who do no renunciate stuff?) - I think I had a concept of one big path & one big goal, but it sounds like... are these paths... fractal?pic.twitter.com/HEOgYBupkm
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> lots of people do both? This is uncommon historically. > are there people who do no renunciate stuff? Also uncommon historically, although yes. In Tibet and Japan, if you eventually do tantra, you usually start out doing sutra for several years first.
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