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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      And I think that Tantra perspective is an important base for any practice that involves looking at horror. (Vinay Gupta talks about this in his recent conversations with Daniel Thorson, which is a Whole ‘Nother Thread)

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    2. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      I also find myself wanting to point at some of @algekalipso ‘s stuff: https://qualiacomputing.com/2017/12/20/the-universal-plot-part-i-consciousness-vs-pure-replicators/ … I don’t always agree with his conclusions, and I find his work fascinating. There’s usually a chunk of math and physics leading up to the conclusion that I haven’t yet managed to grok.

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    3. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      I think there are at least a few different components of how someone could react to “Children of Moloch” memeplexes, and folks could get tangled up between them. (I may bungle this and would be glad of any help; words remain broken as usual)

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    4. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      Some things that make decent sense to me: 1. Molochian patterns freak me the fuck out, man! I am frightened, I am horrified. 2. Molochian patterns could kill me, and could destroy human civilization as we know it. 3. I want to live and thrive, and I want the same for humanity.

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    5. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      Flinching from horror has been adaptive for human survival! Flinch away from misplaced blood and shit → get fewer infections → have more surviving babies. I figure, treat it as a signal, as you would pain - "alert! this situation is not friendly to human survival"

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    6. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      And also, the value of a signal is dependent on its context. We’re now in a situation where there is no “away.” Reflexive flinching is no longer enough.

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    7. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      And we’ve had cultures clash and break down such that an action can mean “loving care” in one framework and “horror like unto misplaced bodily fluids” in another. Crazy-making!

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    8. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      If someone’s very reactive, getting some space between the gut reaction, and the meaning of it, and the choice of action, can help. If someone’s very numb, getting more connection with the gut reaction, and the meaning of it, and the choice of action, can help.

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    9. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      Now, here’s where things could get confused, if folks went on to: 4A: Moloch is Evil and some other things are Good; Moloch is entirely contaminated and some other things are pure. There’s dualism for you! And a whole bunch of stuff around attachment and aversion.

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    10. Sarah McManus‏ @SarahAMcManus 18 Apr 2019
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      (This, I think, is why Scott Alexander’s post about “The Goddess of Everything Else” didn’t quite land for me? Because it’s about getting entirely free of the Darwinian charnel ground, and I think that’s a confusion.)

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @SarahAMcManus

      I had that reaction too, and also to his original Moloch post. I was publicly annoyed about that one in a slightly intemperate way if I remember correctly. https://twitter.com/search?l=&q=Moloch%20from%3Ameaningness&src=typd …

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        1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 18 Apr 2019
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          That search isn't picking up my original tweets. Maybe I deleted them.

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