Ok thanks guys. Doing a bit of work on defining digital objects and happened on his book "on the origin of objects." It's beautifully written and he seems to agree with some of my intuitions. David I wonder what you'd think of his "metaphysical monism, ontological pluralism"
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there's a very nice review of it here: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/82129049.pdf …
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Replying to @tobyshorin @Aelkus
That IS nice, thank you! I would mostly agree with it, but I think Loui doesn’t take BCS quite seriously enough: both for what BC gets right and what he gets wrong.
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Loui is right that BCS got mired in vintage-1980 philosophy of mental representation, and instead of just rejecting the whole framing, BCS tries to fix it, and fails, and that muddies up the rest of his story.
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OTOH Loui underplays the insight that computation is about meaning and we don’t have any theory of that. Also that BCS has gone further than anyone else in working out the consequences of objects arising in interaction and not being objectively separable.
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Replying to @Meaningness @Aelkus
You'll know much more about vintage AI theory and cognitivism than me :-) I'll have to take your word for it! But so far for me, the most compelling parts of this are the very reasonable proposals he has about objects. Would take any recommended sections if you remember them!
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Replying to @tobyshorin @Aelkus
Unfortunately it's been so long since I read it that I can't remember any details :(
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Yup. If his stuff sounds like my stuff, it’s partly because I learned from him, and partly because we both draw on many of the same sources, and partly because we are both right :)
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Replying to @Meaningness @Aelkus
David your humblebrag skills are godlike, teach me the Ways
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