The main sticking point for the future of Vajrayana Buddhism, imo. Good discussion, especially from Pema Khandro Rinpoche (a white woman lama who teaches in Berkeley, CA). 
@VincentHornhttps://www.lionsroar.com/guru-model/
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I’ve experienced profound transmission experiences with close teachers, and have entered into insanely deep relationships with students. I see this reflected in my cohort of peers also, though it isn’t talked about openly much...
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Yes, it seems delicate. But if there’s a way of talking about it openly, that might be of great value.
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The West does have other conceptions available; the nearest one may be the doctoral advisor / PhD candidate relationship. But that’s as inconceivable for most people as a genuine guru/student relationship, and also does have many of the same failure modes.
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Yeah I remember chatting with
@hokaisobol about this in 2010. This is kind of the framing I use when working with folks now, though I never did a PhD so I’m going based on what other people tell me is a similar model of independent research supported by a mentor. - 18 more replies
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You know, I partially wonder if it’s not already happening IRL, and we’re just behind the curve in our theorizing a bit.
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This would make a lot of sense to me. It seems like something that’s natural and inherent in human being. It’s only obscured by the cultural shift from informal, individual mentoring by elders to systematized schooling.
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