Feedback Questions: • Does any of that make sense? • Any immediate thoughts/insights in relation to those notes? • Has your relationship to traditional goals/stages/states changed noticably as your practice matured? • Does any of the above invoke an emotional reaction?
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Replying to @misen__
Yes…particularly re the language. I agree that the language of the framework within which one practices both prescribes and interprets experience. (There is always a framework tho is not always obvious or understood by the person practising).
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And there is substantial qualitative difference across methodologies, even though the same practice labels might be used.
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Replying to @_awbery_
Yeah, I’ve been having a number of chats recently with senior practitioners/teachers and there seems to be a big issue around language, and a general lack of semantic maturity. One person I spoke to also highlighted issues between oral tradition and textual sources (in teaching)
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The qualitative differences across methodologies is also a really good point. Even where the phenomenology of a state/stage/insight sounds very close across traditions, the value & interpretations relating to that can be really different, and a source of much confusion.
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Replying to @misen__
Yes, I think this is important. Worldview from one tradition or another can radically change what a practice means, or what you should/can do with it.
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And that’s in addition to practices themselves being superficially similar, but subtly different in methodology, or sometimes even radically different in direction/outcome despite superficial starting points.
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Seem to be quite liberal with my radicallys today.
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Replying to @_awbery_
Ha. I seem to be radically liberal with my quites, as it happens. Also, thank you for the food for thought re: practices which are superficially similar but functionally divergent.
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It seems limited, but helpful to notice these subtleties as points of reference in thinking/talking about this stuff. Someone I respect very much is currently working a lot on the relationship between oral instruction and manuals, so I've been reflecting on this stuff a little.
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I wrote a little about that here fwiwhttps://approachingaro.org/aro-gter-emptiness …
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