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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 10 Mar 2019
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      Feedback Questions: • Does any of that make sense? • Any immediate thoughts/insights in relation to those notes? • Has your relationship to traditional goals/stages/states changed noticably as your practice matured? • Does any of the above invoke an emotional reaction?

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    2. Charlie Awbery‏ @_awbery_ 10 Mar 2019
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      Yes…particularly re the language. I agree that the language of the framework within which one practices both prescribes and interprets experience. (There is always a framework tho is not always obvious or understood by the person practising).

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    3. Charlie Awbery‏ @_awbery_ 10 Mar 2019
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      And there is substantial qualitative difference across methodologies, even though the same practice labels might be used.

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    4. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 10 Mar 2019
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      Yeah, I’ve been having a number of chats recently with senior practitioners/teachers and there seems to be a big issue around language, and a general lack of semantic maturity. One person I spoke to also highlighted issues between oral tradition and textual sources (in teaching)

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    5. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 10 Mar 2019
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      The qualitative differences across methodologies is also a really good point. Even where the phenomenology of a state/stage/insight sounds very close across traditions, the value & interpretations relating to that can be really different, and a source of much confusion.

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    6. Charlie Awbery‏ @_awbery_ 10 Mar 2019
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      Yes, I think this is important. Worldview from one tradition or another can radically change what a practice means, or what you should/can do with it.

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    7. Charlie Awbery‏ @_awbery_ 10 Mar 2019
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      And that’s in addition to practices themselves being superficially similar, but subtly different in methodology, or sometimes even radically different in direction/outcome despite superficial starting points.

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    8. Charlie Awbery‏ @_awbery_ 10 Mar 2019
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      Seem to be quite liberal with my radicallys today.

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    9. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 10 Mar 2019
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      Ha. I seem to be radically liberal with my quites, as it happens. Also, thank you for the food for thought re: practices which are superficially similar but functionally divergent.

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    10. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ 10 Mar 2019
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      It seems limited, but helpful to notice these subtleties as points of reference in thinking/talking about this stuff. Someone I respect very much is currently working a lot on the relationship between oral instruction and manuals, so I've been reflecting on this stuff a little.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 10 Mar 2019
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      I wrote a little about that here fwiwhttps://approachingaro.org/aro-gter-emptiness …

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