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David Chapman
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David Chapman

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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 26 Feb 2019
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      'Oh, yeah, I used to run a circus.' The search for meaningful things to do with your body now that software has eaten everything. by @utotranslucencehttps://autotranslucence.wordpress.com/2019/02/21/leaving-our-bodies-behind/ …

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    2. Nathan Spears‏ @spearofsolomon 26 Feb 2019
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      I was getting a vibe that the activities which "feel meaningful" to her, with the exception of meditation, all scale more easily than the work of deepening one's sense of intertwinement with the physical world one tedious muscle movement at a time. Yes @utotranslucence ?

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    3. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence 26 Feb 2019
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      Yep, that's pretty accurate. If you use even a rough heuristic of meaningful = more important to more people, then if you're maxing out on meaning then you're using technology a lot of the time. (And by tech I mean specifically the internet boxes that you touch with your hands)

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    4. Lawrence Wang‏ @levity 27 Feb 2019
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      I think about this all the time. There is at least a kind of meta-scalability to “physical meaningfulness”—you know that all other humans also have bodies, so any insight into this problem could benefit all of them.

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    5. Lawrence Wang‏ @levity 27 Feb 2019
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      “[Mountain climbing etc] may be practicing the values and character traits that allow you to succeed in ‘real life’, but it isn’t real life” I’m tempted to argue that given our evolutionary heritage, there is no substitute for complex physical work within a social context

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    6. Lawrence Wang‏ @levity 27 Feb 2019
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      That the pretense for it may seem flimsy from a disembodied analytical point of view, but if it is sufficiently complex and engaging on the body’s own terms, that just doesn’t matter much

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    7. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence 27 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @levity @spearofsolomon @Meaningness

      My problem with this has been arbitrariness. There are compounding returns to continuing to learn a specific physical skill, but the physical skill you pick is highly arbitrary and social network dependent. (Maybe I should just become a climber because all my friends are.)

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    8. Lawrence Wang‏ @levity 27 Feb 2019
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      Seems important to draw a finite-&-infinite-games sort of distinction here. Mountain climbing > soccer because there's more room for the unexpected. But what we could call "improvisational qigong" > mountain climbing because there's less boundary between it and other activities.

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Feb 2019
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      Replying to @levity @utotranslucence @spearofsolomon

      I’ve been inspired by Frank Forencich’s _Exuberant Animal_ approach to exercise as meaningful interactive play. It’s a bit hippy-dippy, but there’s some serious grounding in martial arts and exercise theory as well.https://www.exuberantanimal.com/ 

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        1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Feb 2019
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          Some similar approaches are MovNat and Ido Portal’s stuff. I don’t have any actual experience with any of this, though; just read about it (and put my understanding into personal practice to a small extent).pic.twitter.com/84VUdZ94sB

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