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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Feb 2019
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    Moving @slatestarcodex report on left-wing anti-speech activity makes me wonder: How much is genuinely due to changing cultural conditions, vs. astroturf deliberately orchestrated by a small number of powerful people? (At risk of conspiracy theorizing.) https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/02/22/rip-culture-war-thread/ …pic.twitter.com/B8bGe5ib8O

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      2. Cigfran Llwyd‏ @cigfran_llwyd 23 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @slatestarcodex

        At no point did he characterize the problem as "left wing." You now have, and that is being taken up by those who want to continue the war on any platform they can find. You just became part of the problem, Dave.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 23 Feb 2019
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        He did use the phrase “left wing” explicitly here. And in the surrounding paragraphs he says that his harassers characterized him as right wing, which strongly suggests that they were left wing.pic.twitter.com/HAeesyX2Oq

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      2. St. Rev  ☯️ 🏴 😻‏ @St_Rev 22 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @slatestarcodex

        Orchestration by a small number of people *is* the changing condition. It's become far easier for a small group of likeminded lunatics to connect, organize, and coordinate on a target, because social distance has shrunk by orders of magnitude.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @St_Rev @slatestarcodex

        Qs: Was a large fraction of the population always consumed by insane hate, but we didn’t have the means to notice? If not, why have many more converted? Or have they? What prevents coordination among moderates to break preference falsification & say “no, this is wrong?”

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      2. Rob MacLachlan‏ @robamacl 23 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness @slatestarcodex

        I'm thinking about this as another tentacle of Moloch. Not to deprive ppl involved of their agency or responsibility, but there are subjective social incentives to do this stuff. If it relied on high level coordination it would not work so well.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 23 Feb 2019
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        Yes, that’s been my theory for years, too. I’m considering the alternative hypothesis just in case it leads somewhere. I guess I don’t want to believe so many people are capable of casual evil. Naive, presumably.

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      2. Selfies on the Titanic‏ @sulphuroxide 22 Feb 2019
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        With mimesis it is impossible to tell.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 22 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @sulphuroxide @slatestarcodex

        Well a bit of aggressive detective work might be in order.

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      2. Johnwbh‏ @Johnwbh 23 Feb 2019
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        I wouldn't call it a *powerful* minority. If I was willing to spend 8 hours on it I could send someone hundreds of abusive messages all seemingly from different people. Maybe 0.01% of people are willing to do so, but internet content can reach audiences of millions

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 23 Feb 2019
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        A group that is capable of forcing drastic, unethical action by Mastercard is quite powerful. If (at risk of conspiracy theorizing) that action were coordinated by (say) a hundred well-connected people, they would individually be extremely powerful.

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