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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 14 Feb 2019
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    David Chapman Retweeted Eric Weinstein

    From childhood, I’ve needed to understand the abstract principles first, so I can organize the specifics in my mind. When teaching, I have to remind myself that this is unusual, and insert examples early.https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/status/1096092737290391552 …

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    Eric WeinsteinVerified account @EricRWeinstein
    Silicon Valley has a lot of wanna-be Yodas. But Paul Graham has always seemed like the real deal to me. Thus, as I’ve never known @paulg to be wrong at this level before, I must simply assume that I am not understanding what he is saying. Because this seems dangerously wrong. https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1095993046276194304 …
    9:19 AM - 14 Feb 2019
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      2. Srijit Sanyal‏ @_Srijit 16 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness

        Very easy in math to get lost in misapprehended abstractions that turn out to be meaningless when you try a numeric example. Consider Abel trying to solve quintics, or anyone learning algebra in 19th C, or Haskell programmers today. So quite surprised by Weinstein's comment.

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 16 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @_Srijit

        I’m not very good at math, so I don’t have much sense of that. His experience there was quite different from mine.

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      2. Malcolm  ☣️cean - check sense of smell  👃 —  🌎 🇨🇦‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 23 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness

        Reminds me of a piece from Our Own Metaphor, about "the people who can learn from books—those given to testing generalizations against examples they themselves construct and thus experiencing their truth at a deeper level instead of accepting it on authority"pic.twitter.com/EN3vnqNsna

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      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 23 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean

        Interesting, thanks! I think I’ve automatically asked “well, is this actually true or coherent, since much of what I read or get told isn’t” about everything since I was maybe 10 or so. Including probably my own thoughts, although that’s still work in progress

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      2. Venkatesh brrrRao‏ @vgr 14 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness

        Heh, I'm pretty much solidly in the normie camp of start with the concrete. I rarely ever even get to the abstract versions of things. I tend to go sideways into metaphor and narrative at most.

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      3. Brian Skinner‏ @gravity_levity 14 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @vgr @Meaningness

        What I find is that before I can learn something complicated from the ground up, I need to have properly-calibrated feelings about it. The subject needs to have some kind of emotional landscape or narrative into which all the facts fit in a memorable way.

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      2. Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST "Derek. JUST‏ @PereGrimmer 15 Feb 2019
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        I too like to learn broad propositions first and then fill in examples; I think it's the curse of the intellectual, to be dissatisfied with the concrete ("if this isn't true in all possible worlds, why both learning it?") But to be fair, there are different levels of abstraction.

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      3. eli‏ @WmafNoticer 15 Feb 2019
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        The curse of the high iq... I feel it too

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      2. Full MeTAL linguiste‏ @TyphonBaalAmmon 14 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @Meaningness

        "abstraction" seems like a very fickle concept and "be less/more abstract" are not very good advice because the way they're applied is heavily dependent on the interpretation of this concept.

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      3. Full MeTAL linguiste‏ @TyphonBaalAmmon 14 Feb 2019
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        Replying to @TyphonBaalAmmon @Meaningness

        I've noticed a contrast between the way mathematicians talk about math in general where they emphasize the deductive and formalized aspects of it and the way they talk about their own work, often much more informal and inductive.

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