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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'‏ @utotranslucence 31 Oct 2018
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      https://meltingasphalt.com/a-natural-history-of-beauty/ … (esp. the bit about the flytraps)

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    2. Visakan Veerasamy‏ @visakanv 31 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @utotranslucence

      the word "healthy desire" reminds me of a phrase from this really fun guru on SikhNet who says "the flower is horny for the sun!" in this cheeky mischievous way

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    3. Visakan Veerasamy‏ @visakanv 31 Oct 2018
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      Visakan Veerasamy Retweeted David Chapman

      @KevinSimler re: "out there or in us?"– I like to riff off of @meaningness's point about rainbowshttps://twitter.com/Meaningness/status/863915605019250688 …

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      Meanings are interactions, like rainbows 🌈 https://meaningness.com/objective-subjective … pic.twitter.com/jmh3PhmYIx
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    4. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 1 Nov 2018
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      Oh what a great passage! A coda I would add is that, once you have the full causal model of a rainbow, it becomes _much less interesting_ to ask how the labels “objective” and “subjective” apply to it.

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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      Yes! And, generalizing, most arguments about whether something is subjective or objective are due to both words being poorly defined, and can be resolved by looking at the concrete specifics of the relationships involved.

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    6. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment 1 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @KevinSimler @visakanv

      Agree with the above! My only quibble is with the (joking?) phrase in the passage about rainbows being "guaranteed 100% metaphysics free."

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    7. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment 1 Nov 2018
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      If you mean "metaphysics" in the sense of "goofy section in the bookstore," then yes, of course. But there is also a rigorous sense of metaphysics that is all about describing exactly these issues.

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    8. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @StephenPiment @KevinSimler @visakanv

      Yes; that’s probably a helpful correction! It’s tricky because “metaphysics” is vague. Besides the holistic chakra balancing stuff, there’s a standard STEM dismissal of any uncomfortable conceptual discussion, taking metaphysics = bullshit.

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    9. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ 1 Nov 2018
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      More like conceptual discussion that they don't like = bullshit. But if it is about how everything is made of quarks, then you are good. It's not that they don't engage with metaphysics, it's that they assume a metaphysics and can't question it, so everything else is bullshit.

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    10. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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      Replying to @FateOfTwist_ @StephenPiment and

      Yes, right, exactly! There’s a taken-for-granted default metaphysics, and anything that isn’t that is “philosophical bullshit.”

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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      Although the default thing isn’t well-defined or worked-out; it’s roughly early 20th C positivism. The numerous reasons that can’t work are “philosophy.” “It HAS to work, because otherwise science itself wouldn’t work!” is “rationalism.” Which isn’t philosophy, it’s TRUE.

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        2. Fate Of Twist‏ @FateOfTwist_ 1 Nov 2018
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          Yeah. I find that when arguing with these sorts, ceding ground by accepting their dismissal of metaphysics is a bad move. Better to challenge them on the fact that they are taking all sorts of metaphysical commitments for granted.

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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          Yes! The first part of my Eggplant book points out all these unthought philosophical assumptions, and why they are wrong. Glad to say there’s now a complete first draft of that! Changing one’s mind requires understanding the better alternative though (rest of book)!

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        1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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          My coffee seems to be kicking in, finally.

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        2. Stephen Pimentel‏ @StephenPiment 1 Nov 2018
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          It's remarkable how many espouse "materialism" but have no coherent notion of what "matter" is, whether in terms of quantum field theory or anything else. They simply take for granted a Newtonian view of "matter" as an undefined primitive and hold this forth as "rational."

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Nov 2018
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          And, all the matter in the universe is tidily partioned into objects whose boundaries are objective and whose properties are fully determinate. Etc. Mostly no one would agree when asked, but the unthought STEM worldview implicitly depends on such assumptions.

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