The progress of @elmlang (like removal of `flip`, restriction of tuples to 3 elements) is reminding me of the lessons of /Seeing Like a State/. Would be interesting to have a "why this time is different" debate.
(Note: sometimes this time *is* different.)
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I wonder if someone could facilitate a dialogue between (what I perceive as) the hyper-modernist approach of Elm/
@czaplic and the a-modernist approaches of /Seeing Like a State/, Alexandrian patterns, or@Meaningness-style "fluidity". It could be really cool.@ztellman?2 replies 0 retweets 7 likesShow this thread -
I’ve been digging around for some synthesis of the “structure as clarity” and “structure as oppression” narratives, but as far as I can tell the literature is bipartite. If anyone has recommendations, I’m all ears.
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*Maybe* Lakatos's descriptions of mathematics in /Proofs and Refutations/. 1/3
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In Schön's recounting of an architect+student session, there's a bit about taking up a discipline and knowing when to break it. (In both /The Reflective Practitioner/ and /Educating the <same>/.) It's only a snippet there, but perhaps that's talked about in architecture? 2/3
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Pickering's /The Mangle of Practice/ has something of this flavor. At least, the account of Hamilton's quaternions (my writeup here http://www.exampler.com/old-blog/mangle.html …) has the same Schön-like pattern of adopting a discipline, working it through, then breaking with it. 3/3
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Now I'm thinking of jazz improvisation against standards. There's a lot of theory / practitioner "metis" built up around that. I don't know if theatre improv (as in Johnson's /Impro/) is the same. In any case, that's different from "maybe we should let programmers have 4-tuples")
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David Sudnow’s _The Ways of the Hand_ is interesting on that.
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Interesting. I note the foreword by Dreyfus, someone I rejected vigorously in my younger days but find more persuasive these days.
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Replying to @marick @Meaningness and
Do you have any preference for the earlier edition or the "less academic" later edition? I'm reasonably comfortable with "formal social science and philosophical discourse".pic.twitter.com/gqwncKuCFr
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I only know the original version. (And it’s been decades since I looked at that!) He had one on learning video games also, which I haven’t read.
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