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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 27 Aug 2018

    David Chapman Retweeted Geoffrey Miller

    I’ve been radicalized about this by my mother’s dementia. As her effective IQ sank, it became obvious how many institutions make life so difficult for lower-IQ people, completely unnecessarily. But, indeed, often to the benefit of the high-IQ.https://twitter.com/primalpoly/status/1033799904806588417 …

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    Geoffrey MillerVerified account @primalpoly
    Many high-IQ people collude (subconsciously) to make society as confusing & complicated as possible to lower-IQ people. It's taboo to discuss this 'cognitive oppression', because discussing IQ differences is taboo. Interesting how convenient that is for the cognitive elite https://twitter.com/TaniaArline/status/1033776636150337537 …
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      2. Yolande Jeffares‏ @ChuggaLuggs 29 Aug 2018
        Replying to @Meaningness @carlvphillips

        Might I suggest that actually high IQ isn't an advantage and that society is biased towards the mean range to the detriment of outliers at either end of the spectrum

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 30 Aug 2018
        Replying to @ChuggaLuggs @carlvphillips

        Yes, that seems right!

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Dogs Don't Have Thumbs‏ @MorlockP 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @Meaningness

        I'm not much motivated by "OMG, the system is so racist", (a) because that plays into partisan politics, (b) because its false. A lot of what snares poor people are cognitive traps. Shaniqua speeds, gets a $20 ticket, forgets to pay it, gets a court date, forgets to show...

        1 reply 5 retweets 12 likes
      3. Dogs Don't Have Thumbs‏ @MorlockP 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @MorlockP @Meaningness

        2/ And pretty soon there's an arrest warrant out for her bc she sped a bit, like everyone else, but she - unlike middle class people - is not competent at knowing the date, writing a check, being able to show up and tell a coherent story, etc.

        3 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
      4. Dogs Don't Have Thumbs‏ @MorlockP 28 Aug 2018
        Replying to @MorlockP @Meaningness

        Dogs Don't Have Thumbs Retweeted

        3/ "Maybe this isn't for them" ...so what's your alternative? Kill them? Sterilize them? I wish we didn't have a cognitive underclass, but we do, and we can't morally just say "eh, !@# them - lock them up every time they jaywalk and let them rot" https://twitter.com/JurisNaturalism/status/1034428197327327232 …

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      5. KeepCalmAndDrawl‏ @FormerlyFormer 28 Aug 2018
        Replying to @MorlockP @Meaningness

        Cohesive smaller communities and intact extended families help, IMO. People to look out for Joe-what-ain’t-the-brightest-bulb.

        1 reply 4 retweets 7 likes
      6. ND FB, 1887–1996‏ @skirtsnhose 28 Aug 2018
        Replying to @FormerlyFormer @MorlockP @Meaningness

        yeah but repacking Pandora's box isn't so easy.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. Girl who tries‏ @DmbSite 28 Aug 2018
        Replying to @skirtsnhose @FormerlyFormer and

        We can't repack it on macro scale, at least not yet. We have to do it in small communities and try to survive the whatever-is-coming. Cause something is happening and we if we have intact social communities we'll do much better in the long run.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      8. KeepCalmAndDrawl‏ @FormerlyFormer 28 Aug 2018
        Replying to @DmbSite @skirtsnhose and

        Yeah, I really don’t think a true macro fix exists at this point. Pockets of sanity that will maybe eventually spread is the only route. Work on that.

        0 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
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      2. Sam Bhagwat‏ @calcsam 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @Meaningness

        Really sad -- would be curious for examples?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. the normie whisperer‏ @simplic10 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @calcsam @Meaningness

        Income taxes, applications for various kinds of aid, medical history recreated from scratch at every Dr appt, executing a will, banking. I'm 33, this is what I've run into w my dad so far

        4 replies 4 retweets 40 likes
      4. Sam Bhagwat‏ @calcsam 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @simplic10 @Meaningness

        Ugh, I'm so sorry :(

        0 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
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      2. John Greer‏ @JohnCGreer 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @Meaningness

        This isn't just Moloch as opposed to malicious collusion? I'm still unsure of the benefits to high-IQ people.

        1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
      3. Misha‏ @drethelin 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @JohnCGreer @Meaningness

        I don't think it's about the benefit so much as not noticing the costs. It's like someone who's 6'5" building a kitchen and not realizing shelves at his eye level are too high for a lot of people

        1 reply 0 retweets 10 likes
      4. gattsuru‏ @gattsuru 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @drethelin @JohnCGreer @Meaningness

        There are some benefits -- not just that speeding tickets aren't enforced by getting dragged directly to court with spoiling food in your car or a boss on the phone, but also that these fees don't end up costing more to enforce than they gain.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. gattsuru‏ @gattsuru 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @gattsuru @drethelin and

        In DMV case, often about verification and identity. Most new licenses require spec papers, and are delivered by mail in a couple weeks; this reduces fraud, but is gonna /really/ suck when old ones start expiring and people forgot.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. gattsuru‏ @gattsuru 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @gattsuru @drethelin and

        That said, I doubt it's something that people planned out and coordinated, or even that the benefits are particularly strong motivation. It also may be partly trained skills, as much as IQ: just as memory palace helps significantly w/ recall, tools for dealing w/ bureaucracy.

        0 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. ⛧ esoterik ⛧‏ @d6 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @Meaningness @iwelsh

        yeah i've often thought that in a just society, dominating people with intelligence would be as taboo as dominating people with physical strength is today

        1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
      3. Loren Thacker‏ @ThackerX 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @d6 @Meaningness @iwelsh

        But a well-functioning society cannot give equal “power” to someone with a 120 IQ as a person with an 80 IQ.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Defintelynotabot64‏ @hopeoverfear14 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @Meaningness

        Terminology needs to change. iq is toxic as a brand . Words matter. The worst of the alt-right have co-opted iq for all manners of horror. Need a new way to talk about it if you feel it's an elephant.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. fractal octopus‏ @emareaf 27 Aug 2018
        Replying to @hopeoverfear14 @Meaningness

        Whatever word you choose to substitute for iq it will acquire the same odor. The concept itself is just very impolite.

        0 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
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