e) so there's an enacted version of historicism and moral/epistemic meaning which allows hermeutical meaning-making And then, erm, from being a young Scottish Marxist academic in Manchester... he ends up as an Aristotelian Thomist at Notre Dame University...
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...Tomism (i) being the most explicitly hermeneutical worldview (interpreting the Word of God, though, which introduces both realism and transcendence) and (ii) having won the paradigm-tradition battle (in his opinion).
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Smart-arse me aged 20 or whatever saw this as the transition from one myth of history to another. I urge you not to read my thesis, but the quote to follow is potentially explanatory:
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'rationality is nowhere to be found outside its embodiment in a tradition of enquiry within a larger social tradition. Traditions may communicate despite incommensurability, and prove their rational superiority by overcoming and explaining the problems of other traditions.'
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I understand that's prima facie directly contradictory to meta-rationality (and I'm hoping I've retained enough to be meaningful in some way), but I hope you see the connection?
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Yes, thank you, this is helpful! Also: I knew about After Virtue, but I see from the Wiki page you referenced that in subsequent books he developed his theory of rationality as inhering in traditions. This is potentially more directly relevant, and I have bookmarked accordingly!
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well, quite. That's probably what I should have said. I find your concept of meta-rationality (and the integral project as a whole) wildly exciting but highly intellectually-focused - embeddedness (which I've been calling enacted) is perhaps the critical part here.
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Yup! That’s a big part of the story, in fact. I get it from Heidegger, Wittgenstein, ethnomethodology, etc. My 1986 version is here: https://meaningness.com/metablog/abstract-emergent …pic.twitter.com/CqPtMOdNVD
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impressive timing, yes! I remember - it's sci-fi to blame - being wowed when I thought that someone with very very tiny pointy fingers would have an internal world very different from a great big insensitive crunching machine. A thought I think arose from 'how long is a coast'
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But... this looks bootstrapped from phenomenology without so much of the meaning emerging through interaction in community element though? i.e are you still in your head here?
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I think that’s something of a failing of that 1986 formulation, yes, although it does make gestures in the direction of culture, social embedding, and so on. My current version (the Eggplant book) draws mainly from ethnomethodology, which is solely a account of social action.
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Replying to @Meaningness @_awbery_
we had better both get back to work then...
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