And I'm losing my grasp on the next steps so will revert to my 'literally over-wrought' 1996 undergraduate theses: https://model.report/s/nwni2n/benjamin_taylor_-_does_alasdair_macintyre_identify_a_rationally_acceptable_system_of_ethics … where apparently the narrative goes: a) modern ethics is a cargo-cult world of reification of concepts devoid of context, therefore f meaning
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b) once you understand that moral meaning arises from community, practices, tradition, what looks like interminable moral irresolvability becomes incommernsurability in the Kuhnian sense c) in a Kuhnian crisis, this incommensurability can break down in new meaning-making
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d) (blurred recollection) contextualist epistemology and rationality within a tradition depend on the possibility of the creation of a coherent *narrative* (this becomes important later)
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e) so there's an enacted version of historicism and moral/epistemic meaning which allows hermeutical meaning-making And then, erm, from being a young Scottish Marxist academic in Manchester... he ends up as an Aristotelian Thomist at Notre Dame University...
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...Tomism (i) being the most explicitly hermeneutical worldview (interpreting the Word of God, though, which introduces both realism and transcendence) and (ii) having won the paradigm-tradition battle (in his opinion).
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Smart-arse me aged 20 or whatever saw this as the transition from one myth of history to another. I urge you not to read my thesis, but the quote to follow is potentially explanatory:
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'rationality is nowhere to be found outside its embodiment in a tradition of enquiry within a larger social tradition. Traditions may communicate despite incommensurability, and prove their rational superiority by overcoming and explaining the problems of other traditions.'
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I understand that's prima facie directly contradictory to meta-rationality (and I'm hoping I've retained enough to be meaningful in some way), but I hope you see the connection?
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Replying to @antlerboy @_awbery_
Yes, thank you, this is helpful! Also: I knew about After Virtue, but I see from the Wiki page you referenced that in subsequent books he developed his theory of rationality as inhering in traditions. This is potentially more directly relevant, and I have bookmarked accordingly!
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Replying to @Meaningness @_awbery_
well, quite. That's probably what I should have said. I find your concept of meta-rationality (and the integral project as a whole) wildly exciting but highly intellectually-focused - embeddedness (which I've been calling enacted) is perhaps the critical part here.
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Yup! That’s a big part of the story, in fact. I get it from Heidegger, Wittgenstein, ethnomethodology, etc. My 1986 version is here: https://meaningness.com/metablog/abstract-emergent …pic.twitter.com/CqPtMOdNVD
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Replying to @Meaningness @_awbery_
impressive timing, yes! I remember - it's sci-fi to blame - being wowed when I thought that someone with very very tiny pointy fingers would have an internal world very different from a great big insensitive crunching machine. A thought I think arose from 'how long is a coast'
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But... this looks bootstrapped from phenomenology without so much of the meaning emerging through interaction in community element though? i.e are you still in your head here?
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