Definition of “rationalism” from the Eggplant book draft. If you identify as a rationalist, I’m curious whether you find this accurate, and if not, why not?pic.twitter.com/2cvo7478fj
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Definition of “rationalism” from the Eggplant book draft. If you identify as a rationalist, I’m curious whether you find this accurate, and if not, why not?pic.twitter.com/2cvo7478fj
Revised Lesswrong post, hopefully clearer than the FB post:https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/CPP2uLcaywEokFKQG/toolbox-thinking-and-law-thinking …
So I've read a fair amount of both @ESYudkowsky and @Meaningness and I don;t think the Tools vs. Laws post captures what David is talking about. Though it is an interesting post. It sounds like you two are talking past each other.
I agree on both counts. I find it mysterious that neither of us understands the other. I think I do understand typical rationalists… Eliezer seems to me to have a unique, atypical viewpoint that I haven’t yet been able to figure out.
In both of our defenses: I’m not sure I’ve read whatever is his definitive statement (although I’ve read a fair chunk of his Sequences). And I have mostly talked around my central points rather than stating them clearly. Some people somehow grok them anyway; others don’t.
Would you agree with this statement (from a comment on EY's LW post, https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/CPP2uLcaywEokFKQG/toolbox-thinking-and-law-thinking#MHyZNvoQMLZ5B2533 …)? "Probability theory doesn't extend logic and there are things in reality that logic describes well but PT doesn't, so reality is not probabilistic in its essential nature."
Sort of… I’m not sure what “essential nature” means. Quantum is probabilistic (sort of) and if you want to posit an essential nature it might be that. Regarding the previous point, it’s clear that a a physical maze *is* Euclidean (modulo relativity); denying that would be dumb.
I suspected you'd dislike that phrasing :) I would say he means "the territory" (as opposed to the map).
Not sure I follow. If we assume that QFT is more-or-less right, as seems to be the case, then quantum stuff is more-or-less probabilistic. That doesn’t help us with immigration, eggplants, or chairs, though.
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