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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Jun 2018
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      Can you recommend an overview of everything wrong with probabilistic epistemology? I haven’t found one. There’s lots of papers that say “this particular objection is fatal, so why don’t you guys stop pretending,” but maybe no compendium of those?

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    2. against utopia  🏴‏ @againstutopia 1 Jun 2018
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      does this have anything to do with your twitter back-and-forth with Yudkowsky? :D

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    3. against utopia  🏴‏ @againstutopia 1 Jun 2018
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      also,I'd be interested in what you find. In the new edition of the newsletter, I'm calling the 20th century medical gaze the "statistical-inferential" gaze(c/o Foucault), and analyzing the gaze and pharma's episteme, what it sees as a problem and solutions it develops as a result

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    4. against utopia  🏴‏ @againstutopia 1 Jun 2018
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      so I'd love to see any fatal error in this type of thinking, cause the implications are huge. they'd explain much of the e.g. illegibility of sociological / environmental causes and solutions of depression, simply cause the gaze quantifies depression in x way probabilistically

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Jun 2018
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      Well, there’s a very long list of fatal, in-principle objections. But maybe more relevant to pharma is the current replication crisis, which is especially acute in biomedical research. That is due to misuse of probabilism. John Ionnanidis is the famous leader in this area.

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        2. Eliezer Yudkowsky‏Verified account @ESYudkowsky 1 Jun 2018
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          The naive toolboxer says "Probability must have been the wrong tool" the moment something goes wrong; if you have Law in your metatoolbox you will wonder if the law still held and somebody misapplied it.https://arbital.com/p/4xx/ 

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 1 Jun 2018
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          “The naive toolboxer” seems like a straw man here? One certainly can make that mistake. Maybe some people often do? Is there evidence for that?

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        2. against utopia  🏴‏ @againstutopia 1 Jun 2018
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          oh yeah, familiar with his work. plenty to say there as well, particularly with BP drugs. I'm trying to do a study taking Dumit's ethnomethological account of pharmaceutical marketers and FDA lobbyists, their use of NNT (misuse of probabilism comes in here), and expected results

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        3. against utopia  🏴‏ @againstutopia 1 Jun 2018
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          but I'll go back and re-examine Ioannidis, thanks for that!

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