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Better ways of thinking, feeling, and acting—around problems of meaning and meaninglessness; self and society; ethics, purpose, and value.

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    1. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @michaelporcelli and

      I think by Law he probably means “a set of mathematical constraints that apply if you accept a particular set of axioms.” If you accept that set of axioms, then that is indeed the unique set of constraints that apply.

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    2. Michael Porcelli‏ @michaelporcelli 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @ESYudkowsky and

      Could be a Kantian-style transcendental argument — given agents, goals, & decisions, then what must be the world be like in order for these to exist as they do. Ergo DT!

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    3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @michaelporcelli @ESYudkowsky and

      Possibly. My interest is in “how do formal systems relate to the world.”

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    4. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @michaelporcelli and

      The world doesn’t inherently have agents, goals, or decisions in it; those are concepts we apply to it. We can think about those in many different ways, which will have different consequences.

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    5. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @michaelporcelli and

      DT is one way of thinking about agents, goals, and decisions, which has particular consequences at the level of constraints, completely setting aside methods. Sometimes that’s a useful way of thinking; sometimes it isn’t.

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    6. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @michaelporcelli and

      In other words, the conceptual system itself is a tool. So, maybe @ESYudkowsky is right after all! I do think DT is merely a tool—once you try to apply it to reality, as opposed to considering it as abstract mathematics.

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    7. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @michaelporcelli and

      But, here I mean “a tool for making categorical distinctions in reality” as opposed to “a method for making decisions.”

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    8. Michael Porcelli‏ @michaelporcelli 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @ESYudkowsky and

      Yes. It seems like you don’t have an alternate at that same level beyond “pluralism”. Does that fit?

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    9. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @michaelporcelli @ESYudkowsky and

      Do you mean “an alternative method for making decisions” or “an alternative way of thinking about people and sensible activity”? There are lots of both.

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    10. Michael Porcelli‏ @michaelporcelli 29 May 2018
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      Replying to @Meaningness @ESYudkowsky and

      At the level of making meaningful distinctions between methods/tools for decision making agents in general. What you seem to say is simply “more than one”

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      David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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      Sorry, I don’t understand that tweet

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        2. Michael Porcelli‏ @michaelporcelli 29 May 2018
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          Replying to @Meaningness @ESYudkowsky and

          At level of decisions, there are a plurality of tools. At the level of analyzing “tools for decision making”, you say it’s also a plurality? @ESYudkowsky would say it’s DT?

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        3. David Chapman‏ @Meaningness 29 May 2018
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          Replying to @michaelporcelli @ESYudkowsky and

          Oh, yes, that seems probably right on both counts!

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