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Laurens Gunnarsen
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Mathematical physicist and mentor to mathematically talented youth. Talent is that which bridges the gap between what can be taught and what must be learned.

Joined June 2012

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    1. Dr Eugenia Cheng‏ @DrEugeniaCheng 16 Aug 2018
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      This is probably true. I also claim that many students will be turned off by being forced to memorized the basics. So it wouldn't help to force them!https://twitter.com/davidmanheim/status/1030138888310939650 …

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      David Manheim @davidmanheim
      Replying to @MathPrinceps @cliffordheath @DrEugeniaCheng
      I don't claim that it's impossible to be a mathematician without rote learning, but I do claim, based on my experience and that of others I know who went to schools that didn't force us to memorize the basics, that many students won't manage to be successful without it.
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    2. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 16 Aug 2018
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      Maybe. I'm not sure there is a significant value in keeping students with lukewarm interest in math, but few well-honed basic skills. They mostly won't become mathematicians, and even if most won't be as "turned off," they won't have drilled in these basic skills needed for life.

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    3. Laurens Gunnarsen‏ @MathPrinceps 16 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @davidmanheim @DrEugeniaCheng

      Very few "math skills" are needed for life. This is precisely why this country has managed to survive for many decades with a completely dysfunctional system of mathematics education.

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    4. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @MathPrinceps @DrEugeniaCheng

      I'm wary of the historical "evidence" of how people muddled through. The difference between the level of math needed for a high-school dropout to have a successful career in the 1980s, or to understand widely discussed policy issues, is clearly very different than the present.

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      Laurens Gunnarsen‏ @MathPrinceps 17 Aug 2018
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      Replying to @davidmanheim @DrEugeniaCheng

      If the learning of "mathematics" (meaning the assimilation of some body of "elementary" facts and methods) really is of such urgent importance to the success of young people today, then why do they drop out of math at the rate of 50% per year, from eighth grade through college?

      9:01 AM - 17 Aug 2018
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        1. Laurens Gunnarsen‏ @MathPrinceps 17 Aug 2018
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          And can we not expect them to avail themselves of Khan Academy and other resources, if their need is so desperate?

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        1. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 18 Aug 2018
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          Replying to @MathPrinceps @DrEugeniaCheng

          Are you asking why people are irrational, or short sighted? Or are you using it as a proof of something?

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