You do not address the question I raised. If none of this rote learning survives in the long run, then what is the value of it?
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Replying to @MathPrinceps @dmc0603 and
b/c ? raised isn't the right one. The value of rote is that it helps us develop our long term memory which creates our knowledge base & critical thought. Cognitive Load Theory; read about it here https://impact.chartered.college/article/shibli-cognitive-load-theory-classroom/ … research study here http://www.cogtech.usc.edu/publications/kirschner_Sweller_Clark.pdf …
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Replying to @TaraMathBC @MathPrinceps and
This article doesn't mention rote. Do you believe that rote is the only or best way to develop long term memory?
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Replying to @DrEugeniaCheng @MathPrinceps and
sigh...one only obtains long term memory thru repeated practice. Also known as "rote".pic.twitter.com/sua4YtETmD
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Replying to @TaraMathBC @DrEugeniaCheng and
Why, then, do students who "successfully" engaged in repeated practice of the division of fractions not retain their skill in this activity? Why do so many college graduates not recall how to divide 11/31 by -53/97?
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Replying to @MathPrinceps @DrEugeniaCheng and
because they haven't MASTERED this basic math skill. Use of calculators and other manipulatives have inhibited their ability to do so. Simply "knowing" isn't good enuf. Without mastery long term memory cannot occur http://www.psy.cmu.edu/~siegler/Siegler-etal-inpressPsySci.pdf ….
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Replying to @TaraMathBC @DrEugeniaCheng and
@TaraMathBC: See Bahrick & Hall (1991) J. Exp. Psych.: General, 120, pp. 20-33. Learners of algebra whose practice persisted only while it was imposed on them did not retain much. If practice is miserable, no one will persist in it once the obligation to persist is removed.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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Tara Houle Retweeted Claire Lehmann
well that can be said for ANYTHING. That's what happens when kids haven't mastered basic math facts, like fractional arithmetic, so they can learn Algebra effectively. Try and rush students thru procedures w/o mastery, leads to disaster. Just saw thishttps://twitter.com/clairlemon/status/1030307817297563648 …
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Claire LehmannVerified account @clairlemonBecause a) you want to store facts in your long term memory & retrieve them when relevant b) your working memory gets overloaded easily c) it's hard to be critical w/out having mastery & d) it's hard to be creative unless you have knowledge across domains https://twitter.com/Mexikansk/status/1030302461876219906 …1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @TaraMathBC @DrEugeniaCheng and
Ms Houle, you seem determined to ignore a basic point: you can't get kids to practice enough to achieve useful, durable results simply by compelling them to practice. This has been tried and tried and tried, and the main effect of the effort has been to inculcate math hatred.
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Replying to @MathPrinceps @DrEugeniaCheng and
3. practice is the starting point for any effective math lesson, but it also includes some exploration and inquiry. Novice learners require much more practice and THIS is what is missing in most elementary classrooms today, not allowing for higher order math concepts 2 develop.
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Again, Ms Houle, you pointedly refuse to acknowledge the significance of student motivation, and the profound consequences of practice whose effect is to undermine it.
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