Martin Kulldorff on Twitter: "Hi Greg. You are correct that I don't fully grasp immunology, which is why I asked what is going on. Nobody knows all aspects of infectious diseases. Unlike Fauci, my public health expertise is in infectious disease outbreaks, which is critical knowledge when fighting a pandemic.… https://t.co/1kdpIkK17e"

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Martin Kulldorff‏ @MartinKulldorff 26 Sep 2020

Martin Kulldorff Retweeted Peter Staley

This is weird! @SWAtlasHoover stated the simple fact that immunity is higher than those with antibodies, whereupon Dr. Fauci criticizes him without contradicting what was actually said. Stating a simple scientific fact is not "extraordinarily inappropriate". What is going on?https://twitter.com/peterstaley/status/1309848839621423107 …

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Peter StaleyVerified account @peterstaley

During my interview with Tony Fauci yesterday, I asked him about Scott Atlas's @SWAtlasHoover attempted takedown of @CDCDirector Redfield re how many Americans are still susceptible to #COVID19. Here's my question. /1 Full interview: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CFlEMt8Kg2B/?igshid=168osghuko3uw … pic.twitter.com/qTdATWdwrA

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Leif Erik Sander‏ @Sander_Lab 26 Sep 2020

Replying to @MartinKulldorff @SWAtlasHoover

Dear @MartinKulldorff Yes, we need open discourse. But the reports @SWAtlasHoover references (one of which we published) describe T cell cross-*reactivity* NOT cross-immunity. To equate cross-reactive T cells with immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is unfounded & simply false at this point

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Leif Erik Sander‏ @Sander_Lab 26 Sep 2020

Replying to @Sander_Lab @MartinKulldorff @SWAtlasHoover

And to state that "antibodies make a small fraction of the people that have immunity" is also unfounded. There is zero evidence that cross-reactive T cells provide protection (i.e. immunity). This claim is not supported by the science he references.

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Peter Staley‏Verified account @peterstaley 26 Sep 2020

Replying to @Sander_Lab @MartinKulldorff @SWAtlasHoover

Thank you for explaining why this entire subthread is based on Kulldorff's false assumption. That's how Atlas rolls.

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Martin Kulldorff‏ @MartinKulldorff 26 Sep 2020

Replying to @peterstaley @Sander_Lab @SWAtlasHoover

Hi Peter. Can you help explain? Is it only those with antibodies that are immune, or is the number higher than that? Atlas claims the latter. Fauci did not contradict that in the interview. Is the disagreement whether it is higher or how much higher?

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Greg Retallack‏ @GregRetallack 26 Sep 2020

Replying to @MartinKulldorff @peterstaley and

Hi Martin, It has been plainly demonstrated here that neither you or Scott Atlas fully grasp the mechanisms of immunity. Can you explain how it is anything other than PROFOUNDLY RECKLESS for either of you to insert yourselves into advisory roles? You're getting people killed.

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Martin Kulldorff‏ @MartinKulldorff 26 Sep 2020

Replying to @GregRetallack @peterstaley and

Hi Greg. You are correct that I don't fully grasp immunology, which is why I asked what is going on. Nobody knows all aspects of infectious diseases. Unlike Fauci, my public health expertise is in infectious disease outbreaks, which is critical knowledge when fighting a pandemic.

11:42 AM - 26 Sep 2020