But explicitly asking questions is key to affirmative consent. Also: many people’s awkwardness or status (esp. financial class, trans, etc) can interfere with ability to form relationships. Relevant to not just dudes but disadvantaged PoC, single moms. Celibacy snowballs.
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Replying to @PatrickGerard01 @InFNsanity and
Yes, trans or gender non-conforming ppl can have trouble finding partners even if they have good social skills, esp in small towns or remote areas, as can physically disabled, mentally ill, autistic, socially awkward or low self-esteem folks, or folks in tough situations. Not…
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Replying to @MarlaCaldwell @PatrickGerard01 and
everyone who is involuntarily celibate for long periods is misogynist or dangerous to partners, and all deserve to have a supportive community, just preferably not one that encourages hostility, objectification, and violence as the ones using "incel" label now so.
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Replying to @MarlaCaldwell @InFNsanity and
That’s the thing. These selfish guys will hijack any label or term to make it about them. By letting them have the label, we let them recruit. Unless we want to condemn every POTENTIAL terrorist (which might be many), it’s important not to condemn all incels/Muslims/evangelicals.
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Replying to @PatrickGerard01 @InFNsanity and
At this point, it's pretty clear that the term incel refers to a specific group & that's it's fair to have certain expectations about them. Those don't by any means apply to everyone who is involuntarily celibate, but if someone applies the "incel" label to themselves, reasonable
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Replying to @MarlaCaldwell @PatrickGerard01 and
At this point, it's pretty clear that the term Muslim refers to a specific group & that's it's fair to have certain expectations about them. Those don't by any means apply to everyone who is involuntarily celibate, but if someone applies the "incel" label to themselves, reasonabl
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Replying to @Zuleicht @PatrickGerard01 and
There are nearly 2 billion Muslims worldwide with a few major sects & several minor, a number of different cultural traditions & very few expectations valid for all. That's not true for the possibly tens of thousands now calling themselves "incel", which is rooted in misogyny.
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Replying to @MarlaCaldwell @PatrickGerard01 and
I don't know these billions of 1000s of people. I just see you agree all incels are misogynist rapists, and presumably should be made illegal. I don't see how you're going to ban virginity
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Replying to @Zuleicht @MarlaCaldwell and
I don't think anyone said incels are rapists. That was a question i had too. They seem to wallow in their circumstances, even going in forums to validate their unworthiness. I also didn't see anyone wanting it to be illegal, but i may have missed it. Why does it make u so angry?
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Replying to @InFNsanity @MarlaCaldwell and
Rape is the implied violence once incels find girlfriends. But I guess you're trolling, since you really want to just say "lol u mad" because I think it's silly to bash all virgins, when unlike ideology it's not a choice
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No one is "bashing virgins" here. We're concerned about the social implications of the incel movement as it's narrowed from supportive to any virgins to become anti-women, encouraging violence, idolizing men who commit violent acts. I'd like to see more support, but pro-social.
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