If every incel somehow got a girlfriend, the net violence in the world would only go up. Because guys who think like this are violent to their girlfriends. It's not their singleness that's dangerous; it's the way they think about women.
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From what I've read so far they do use the term volcel in their group vocabulary.
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Interesting. Are you reading one of the sites where they gather? Do they apply it to themselves generally or seem to use it to distinguish a subgroup or outside group?
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I've started reading some of the forums they use. I think they use it more to describe others but possibly some they do include in their "ranks". I have seen some use it to refer to themselves. I need to read more though. I've had to read up on their jargon.
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Reading original source material is a good way to learn more about their perspectives and identity. I should probably dig into them a little more closely, but need to stock up on eye bleach first.
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Lol. I've been reading the forums of "incel" individuals asking questions and other incels replying. An interesting (to me) topic was oral sex. The consensus on that was it was disgusting for a woman to perform oral sex on a man. That made a woman undesired by them. ?!
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Interesting. I wonder if it's common with other men to have an attraction/repulsion issue with that? Or maybe it's particular to those who have the virgin/whore binary framing for women, whether celibate or not.
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I suspect it's the virgin/whore mindset as you said. I read different forums often and I've only seen a minority (smalllll minority lol) be averse to women who perform oral sex. Most often the comments are very enthusiastically supportive lol.
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That’s the thing. These selfish guys will hijack any label or term to make it about them. By letting them have the label, we let them recruit. Unless we want to condemn every POTENTIAL terrorist (which might be many), it’s important not to condemn all incels/Muslims/evangelicals.
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At this point, it's pretty clear that the term incel refers to a specific group & that's it's fair to have certain expectations about them. Those don't by any means apply to everyone who is involuntarily celibate, but if someone applies the "incel" label to themselves, reasonable
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At this point, it's pretty clear that the term Muslim refers to a specific group & that's it's fair to have certain expectations about them. Those don't by any means apply to everyone who is involuntarily celibate, but if someone applies the "incel" label to themselves, reasonabl
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There are nearly 2 billion Muslims worldwide with a few major sects & several minor, a number of different cultural traditions & very few expectations valid for all. That's not true for the possibly tens of thousands now calling themselves "incel", which is rooted in misogyny.
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I don't know these billions of 1000s of people. I just see you agree all incels are misogynist rapists, and presumably should be made illegal. I don't see how you're going to ban virginity
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I don't think anyone said incels are rapists. That was a question i had too. They seem to wallow in their circumstances, even going in forums to validate their unworthiness. I also didn't see anyone wanting it to be illegal, but i may have missed it. Why does it make u so angry?
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Rape is the implied violence once incels find girlfriends. But I guess you're trolling, since you really want to just say "lol u mad" because I think it's silly to bash all virgins, when unlike ideology it's not a choice
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I'm not trolling. I was sincere. I also disagree that virginity is a choice in almost all cases. It's also possible to put forth the argument that being Muslim, or any religion or ideology, isn't a free choice to some people either. They believe it so it is their reality.
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