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Trauma/Critical Care/Acute Care Surgeon. MD/PhD. FACS. UVa/UMD/UPenn. Asst Professor of Surgery at Wash U. Blocking is curating.

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    Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 22 Feb 2020

    Mark Hoofnagle Retweeted Matthew Brignall, ND

    No, she killed this kid through negligence and everyone on the facebook group that encouraged her down this path belongs in jail.https://twitter.com/drbrignall/status/1230992019431886849 …

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    Matthew Brignall, ND @drbrignall
    There are a lot of threads to unpack here, but the one about this woman being afraid to share her story b/c the usual suspects will point and laugh is important to me. I meet people like this in my office, and we fail them every time we mock their beliefs https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/she-wanted-freebirth-no-doctors-online-groups-convinced-her-it-n1140096 …
    3:31 AM - 22 Feb 2020
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    • (((AMF))) 💧 Ian "Department of Diseasology" 🍩 Musgrave Kevin says GET YOUR SHOTS Oscar, Skeptic. Inventor of the Seesaw Jasna Badzak celia 𝙽𝚊𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚗 𝚂𝚑𝚒𝚌𝚔𝚕𝚎 Robert Szasz Schönes Veganes Leben
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      2. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 22 Feb 2020

        That’s not “pointing and laughing”. No one is laughing that this kid died in its meconium. No one thinks it’s funny to encourage women to risk infant mortality for the sake of “natural” experience. There is massive privilege being granted here towards people behaving abominably.

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      3. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 22 Feb 2020

        My patients who are literally shot by other people enjoy less sympathy than privileged women that negligently kill their offspring. That’s America.

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      4. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 22 Feb 2020

        I’ve been told not to assume the patient in this case enjoys such privilege, but the natural/organic/wellness/antivvaxx cult is absolutely a product of the kind of privileged notion of purity for a price, written about so eloquently by @AlanLevinovitz https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/goop-teaches-us-we-can-be-pure--if-we-spend-enough-money/2020/01/16/22f8114e-37c1-11ea-bf30-ad313e4ec754_story.html …

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      1. Sarah Grynpas‏ @SarahGrynpas 22 Feb 2020
        Replying to @MarkHoofnagle

        That article was so strange to me. I can understand someone having negative experiences with doctors and believing crap as a result. But those groups sound so, so, stupid. A midwolf? They get medicine wrong AND turn "nature" into something from a Disney movie.

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      2. Matthew Brignall, ND‏ @drbrignall 22 Feb 2020
        Replying to @MarkHoofnagle

        Can these not both be true? Do you ever consider that the tone you use in these conversations is perpetuating the trust problem?

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      2. Dawn Mckenna‏ @Subimaginati 22 Feb 2020
        Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @ischemgeek

        The doctors as well who traumatised her? The fact is doctor misconduct is a leading reason why vulnerable anxious people are at risk from the hogwash self appointed lifestyle "gurus" flog.

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      3. ischemgeek‏ @ischemgeek 22 Feb 2020
        Replying to @Subimaginati @MarkHoofnagle

        I see that as a separate but valid issue. Government should treat the alt med nonsense as the dangerous fraud it is, AND professional organizations need to take misconduct complaints more seriously & quit circling the wagons.

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      2. Dawn Mckenna‏ @Subimaginati 22 Feb 2020
        Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @ischemgeek

        I literally avoided certain doctors for a decade after an appallingly abusive experience. Addressing the way women, especially multiply marginalised women are often mistreated in medical settings is also part of addressing this scourge.

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      3. ischemgeek‏ @ischemgeek 22 Feb 2020
        Replying to @Subimaginati @MarkHoofnagle

        To clarify: I see it as a separate causative factor. Not the same thing as literal fraudsters ripping people off. Yes, bad doctors can and do alienate people, and if predatory alt med schemers didn't exist, people wouldn't turn to folk remedies in nearly the same numbers.

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