Delicious podcast with . Stopped my run so many times to take notes.
Give it a listen if you're into creative tools or lowering the barriers to programming/creative expression.
A few tangential musings:
Conversation
1. Minor point: mentions that was designed to teach kids to program. Not the case.
It was designed as a creative tool for kids to imagine, create, and share their ideas...using programming and design in pursuit of their own goals.
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Good correction! My mistake