It’s a beautiful moment when someone writes the summary piece you need at the exact moment you need it.
on visual programming languages: drossbucket.com/2021/06/30/hac
I’d been digging through the same HN threads last week trying to piece it together.
Thanks for the TLDR!
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- My perspective is that, any lisp dialect is by themselves a visual programming tool/environment
- The common one is Clojure and Racket.
- But there are different scheme and common lisp implementations.
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It must be VPL’s cyclical hibernation patterns. Emerges every 8 months and compels individuals to summarise the state of affairs, and try to figure out why it’s not “more of a thing". Good survival instincts.
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"Better for data flow than control flow" - if we can get data flow, do we need control flow?
Have you looked at Bret Victor et al's work at dynamicland.org?
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Yes, reading all of Bret’s work was my gateway into exploring HCI and VPLs many years ago. He’s a wonderful starting point that gets a lot of folks interested in the topic 👍



