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    Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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    Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceVenkatesh Rao

    Thread about Roamblogs, prompted by @vgr (thanks to @QiaochuYuan for encouraging me to write it)https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1200101161128185856 …

    Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

    Venkatesh Rao @vgr
    How would you reimagine blogs around graph databases as the foundation? (Roam, Notion, Gatsby all seem to have blog like functionality in their sights but it feels like a stepchild use case relative to their core use cases of notes, wikis, collaboration, static pages) https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1200097087746011136 …
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      2. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        I'm experimenting with writing publicly on http://roamresearch.com , and its graph features seem to be solving some core challenges: 1. wanting to be able to reference ideas I haven't written a full post about 2. not wanting to post about something before my post is 💯

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      3. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceMalcolm  🙃cean

        ...you can see how those two challenges reinforce each other. Since everything's so intertwingled, this made it really tough to publish anything!https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1047480607226384384 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Malcolm  🙃cean @Malcolm_Ocean
        Odgovor korisnicima @_awbery_ @dopaminendreams i sljedećem broju korisnika: 2
        Inspired by this exchange I've made myself a new twitter header photo :) #intertwingularity #intertwingled pic.twitter.com/4I8ClECY6Z
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      4. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        (EDIT to thread: Apparently twitter refused to let me publish this storm because I've used the phrase "everything is deeply intertwingled" too many times already. Had to edit the phrasing slightly to stop a vague "Whoops, you already said that" error message)

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      5. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceAndy Matuschak

        Anyway, with Roam, I can just mention a new idea using a [[page link]], & get a placeholder page for it. Even before adding content to the page, it already displays every place where that word/phrase is used, giving context for learning more about it:https://twitter.com/andy_matuschak/status/1190102757430063106 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Andy MatuschakOvjeren akaunt @andy_matuschak
        Knowledge systems which display contextual backlinks to a node open up an interesting new behavior. You can bootstrap a new node extensionally (rather than intensionally) by simply linking to it from many other nodes—even before it has any content.
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      6. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        I've only done a little bit of this but it's been amazing and I can tell that it's going to make a huge difference to my online writing. I've wanted something like this for years. Here's some thinking from 2 years ago. Ended up making an Airtable and it helped... like 5%.pic.twitter.com/l1Rlwqlhhd

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      7. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceMalcolm  🙃cean

        In those notes, you'll notice I talk about Tables of Contents and about http://meaningness.com , which is one of the best examples of a hypertext *book* that I'm aware of. @meaningness made drupal plugins for 🛠️ WIP pages & hover-glossaryhttps://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1199773216169963520 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Malcolm  🙃cean @Malcolm_Ocean
        Odgovor korisnicima @vgr @Meaningness
        👆 I also think this. I have some thoughts here in my public roam about roamblogs & roambooks and meaningness is my main go-to example for the latter. Read here: https://roamresearch.com/#/app/malcolmocean/page/tOxCWpVZW … (This is a feature wishlist, not thoughts on what is or could be profoundly possible.) pic.twitter.com/eHJ8cjjssY
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      8. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceMalcolm  🙃cean

        But meaningness is a nonlinear book. What's a nonlinear blog? What distinguishes a book from a blog?https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1200488808518705152 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Malcolm  🙃cean @Malcolm_Ocean
        What is prose? By "prose" I don't mean "as opposed to poetry", I mean "as opposed to a pile of post-it notes", or "as opposed to your twitter feed" This seems like an important and nuanced question, and I have thoughts on the subject!
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      9. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        I see the essential difference between blog & book as: a book has a finite breadth & depth, that's somewhat known from the beginning, and thus is organized around a ToC, and can be *finished". Also intended to be internally coherent.

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      10. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        By contrast, a blog is an ongoing exploration of whatever captures the writer's interest at a given moment (perhaps with a theme). Any table of contents must be mostly retrospective, since the writer doesn't know what comes next. Later posts may contradict earlier ones.

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      11. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        This implies some bloggers who are super organized & have dozens of posts planned out could be considered to already be writing digital books. Then ofc there are blogs converted into books, one example being the conversion of LW Sequences into R:A-Z https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NjFgqv8bzjhXFaELP/new-edition-of-rationality-from-ai-to-zombies …pic.twitter.com/2mUzCfpdKR

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      12. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        @Meaningness again becomes a helpful example here. The homepage says it's a "work in progress ... hypertext book and a metablog that comments on it" and the book has a table of contents whereas the metablog is simply posts organized by date.

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      13. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        One advantage to writing a book is you can assume readers will start @ start, so you can introduce multiple new concepts, then use them to say more. A huge part of the point of a hypertext book is that it affords multiple points of entry, which absolutely necessitates glossaries.

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      14. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceMalcolm  🙃cean

        At *minimum*, one needs accessible quick reminders of what terms mean. Roam's contextual backlink approach is even more valuable as it means you see not just the definitions but also references to what else you've said ABOUT and WITH those conceptshttps://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1134976325029113856 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Malcolm  🙃cean @Malcolm_Ocean
        One model I've found myself dancing with over the past few years is called More than Cool Reason: "Withness-thinking or "systemic thinking" and "thinking *about* systems" Withness and aboutness are two very different modes of thinking! PDF: http://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Mail/xmcamail.2012_09.dir/pdfajAMfjg0fI.pdf … pic.twitter.com/EE81RQa4nc
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      15. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceEugene Wei

        This is critical for allowing writers to write deep thoughts using new concepts without having to re-explain themselves every time, but also not having to manually pull up a reference link for each use of a term... & ofc some people don't even try 😂https://twitter.com/eugenewei/status/1193662458835038208 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Eugene Wei @eugenewei
        The internet version of the illusion of transparency (false perception that everyone knows what you’re thinking and feeling) is the mistaken belief that your followers/subscribers/readers have memorized everything you’ve tweeted/blogged/newslettered.
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      16. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        And we haven't even gotten to some of the more epic features of roam, including the ability to embed-quote nodes or entire subtrees, and to see where a given piece is quoted. This allows for remixing old pieces or drafts, producing meta-commentary, & stuff I haven't even dreamed!

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      17. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceVisa  ✈️ NYC!  🗽 (Apr23-May12)

        Previously the best thing for this was twitter & QTs (and it's still better along some dimensions) See @visakanv's answer to @vgr's original questionhttps://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1200325448313405441 …

        Malcolm  🙃cean je dodan/na,

        Visa  ✈️ NYC!  🗽 (Apr23-May12) @visakanv
        Odgovor korisniku/ci @vgr
        Basically my twitter thread webs, but editable, and without character limits. (Or 1000chars or something.) A bunch of long threads would get condensed into shorter ones https://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1071803092331520001?s=21 … https://twitter.com/visakanv/status/1071803092331520001 …
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      18. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        There are challenges though. People find http://meaningness.com  daunting to read because they don't know where to start. In order to ensure I read the whole thing, I chose to just go in ToC order anyway. I guess the main value is being able to publish a half-written book at all.

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      19. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        So going back to @vgr's original point, @RoamResearch is clearly not built around a core use case of blogging and has barely optimized for it at all... and yet it's already a powerful platform for this. What's possible with a few years of further development?

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      20. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Here's what I'd like to see for roam to make it better for graph-based-blogs: 😍 1. Basic usability stuff: shareable page url with previews, custom header/theme/css, private drafts, commenting (block-level!)

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      21. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        😍 2. Better ways to organize posts to point people to new content & updated-old content. Currently landing page is Daily Notes, which is... sort of appropriate for a blog... but it ends up being mostly blank unless actively updated frequently.

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      22. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        😍 3. Subscribe-related features. One option I would like is to be able to easily export a page as HTML and pipe it straight into wordpress+RSS and into mailchimp, so that I can announce new posts to followers. Could also be more internal.

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      23. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        😍 4. What-I've-Read tracking. This is key for nonlinear reading. Visited-links turning purple is the Web 1.0 version of this, but it doesn't suffice when pages may also be updated. It needs to be both on a page level and on a node level.

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      24. Malcolm  🙃cean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean 29. stu 2019.
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        Malcolm  🙃cean je proslijedio/a tweet korisnika/ceMalcolm  🙃cean

        😍 5. Inter-roam linking/embedding. I've talked to @Conaw & this is en route but is tough & needs a new data model. 5b. Some extensible standard for doing deep backlinks & embed between completely different *sites*. Revive the blogosphere! Also science 🌎https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1199764376867102723 …

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        Malcolm  🙃cean @Malcolm_Ocean
        Odgovor korisnicima @mrgunn @Conaw i sljedećem broju korisnika: 4
        I'm talking not just a citation graph on the level of papers, but on the level of specific claims & quotations being deeplinked. I think that would be really powerful, and would allow for a whole new level of following an author's thinking. https://twitter.com/Conaw/status/1195150854581559298 …
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