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    1. John Backus‏ @backus Jan 31

      Close your eyes and try to imagine a red star. Alright, which of the 6 examples did you see in your head? Poll in tweet below 👇pic.twitter.com/k8FadgsyrR

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    2. John Backus‏ @backus Jan 31

      How strong is the visual when you close your eyes? ☝

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    3. John Backus‏ @backus Jan 31

      ... I didn't realize people _literally_ see things when they try to visualize them?? I'm firmly #1 from the example image. TIL this is "aphantasia." h/t @nayafia

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    4. Kevin Kwok‏ @kevinakwok May 8
      Replying to @backus @nayafia

      https://www.facebook.com/notes/blake-ross/aphantasia-how-it-feels-to-be-blind-in-your-mind/10156834777480504/ … So even after reading this I didn't think I had aphantasia. But after your test I am shook

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    5. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler May 8
      Replying to @kevinakwok @backus @nayafia

      wtf fam! i also thought i could visualize but it’s just black 😧

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    6. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler May 8
      Replying to @KevinSimler @kevinakwok and

      an exercise: imagine a circle inscribed in a square. what shape does the part of the square that’s outside the circle make? i can do this easily. and i always assumed i was picturing it. but is it possible i’m not actually picturing anything? how??

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    7. Kevin Kwok‏ @kevinakwok May 8
      Replying to @KevinSimler @backus @nayafia

      Yeah I also can do this easily. But if you really piush me on the granularity of my mental "image" it's not that visual. I feel like we are missing axes on how to evaluate internal thinking.

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    8. Malcolm 👁Ocean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean May 8
      Replying to @kevinakwok @KevinSimler and

      My visualization in the original poll started at #1, but I could get it to go towards #6 by persisting. I have a huge capacity for something I call spatialization, which is like visualization but for shapes, not sight. It's not directly sensory...

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    9. Luca Dellanna‏ @DellAnnaLuca May 9
      Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @kevinakwok and

      IMHO it's similar to whether, if I ask people to lift a 10kg bag, different people would engage different muscles. Inability to recruit a given brain function, without instructions/motivation/training, does not tell us anything about whether that function is there or not.

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    10. Malcolm 👁Ocean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean May 9
      Replying to @DellAnnaLuca @kevinakwok and

      Malcolm 👁Ocean Retweeted Malcolm 👁Ocean

      Totally. It'll be interesting to see what training for this emerges as it becomes better-known. I think it'll surprise people by being less about learning to DO something and more about learning to NOT INHIBIT the part that naturally does it.https://twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1101313540877664256 …

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      Malcolm 👁Ocean @Malcolm_Ocean
      But I'm not holding these as separate skills to train—my right hemisphere is actually quite good at all of these already! That's its job—and I've trained many of these too. The thing is that these capacities have been restricted by my left hemisphere's dominance.
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      Malcolm 👁Ocean‏ @Malcolm_Ocean May 9
      Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @DellAnnaLuca and

      Relatedly, I have a friend who is 100% aphantasic unless they're on psychedelics, in which case they can close their eyes and imagine things quite readily. So obviously that neural circuitry is there (it's probably literally necessary for sight) but is ordinarily inhibited.

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        2. Kaj Sotala‏ @xuenay May 9
          Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @DellAnnaLuca and

          I once talked with an aphantasic who *didn't* get visualizations even when on psychedelics; https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/baTWMegR42PAsH9qJ/generalizing-from-one-example/comment/7hRbFHB6ttcFveTNL … . Wonder what causes the difference - seems plausible that there could be different causes for aphantasia.

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        3. Mi'sen‏ @misen__ May 9
          Replying to @xuenay @Malcolm_Ocean and

          I met a full-on aphantasiac who cannot visualise anything with training, drugs, sleep. They’re also an artist, which is cool. I’ve also met people who had no capacity to visualise until they learnt to concentrate - so I wonder if you’re right that there may be different causes

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        1. innanetmatt‏ @mchandleraz May 9
          Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @DellAnnaLuca and

          Holy smokes, that describes me! Didn't even know about aphantasia until @kevinakwok RT'd it.

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        1. Gary Basin‏ @garybasin May 9
          Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @DellAnnaLuca and

          Yep I'm similar

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        1. Kevin Kwok‏ @kevinakwok May 9
          Replying to @Malcolm_Ocean @DellAnnaLuca and

          Wait whaaaa

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