@MakerOfDecision Okay, agree that we'd need logical uncertainty. But I think your point is intuitively wrong in the human domain.
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@MakerOfDecision I guess what's happening is that implicitly I'm assuming that you have "already updated" on all the weak arguments. Then1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@MakerOfDecision you uncertain about whether there are strong arguments. If the best advocate is presenting their case and starts saying1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@MakerOfDecision a bunch of weak arguments you downdate that there are good arguments, so you downdate the probability of the proposition.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@MakerOfDecision ...because if there were good arguments then the advocate would be making them instead of weak ones.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@argletargle But that's about your model of the advocate, not about the argument. And it has TONS of extra assumptions needed.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
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@argletargle I agree that if you're discussing the human domain such things are needed, but it's orthogonal to the original discussion.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@MakerOfDecision Eh? I thought we are talking about fallacies. Like, fallacies people make in arguments.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@argletargle There is a difference between logical fallacies committed in discourse, and argumentative fallacies. I was assuming the former.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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@MakerOfDecision Okay... So are you saying that when humans use this, it is usually actually correct but always a logical fallacy?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
@argletargle Unsure if it's usually correct. I suspect most of the time it's simply a failure to steel man; people debate opportunistically.
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Replying to @MakerOfDecision
@MakerOfDecision Yeah you're right. I meant to say that it is usually correct when I use it :)0 replies 0 retweets 2 likesThanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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