Mad Fucking Witches aka “Clinical Psychologists” na Twitteru: "13. All we have been trying to say (for years, now, with little headway) is that if women want men to understand structural class and stop saying #NotAllMen, we all also have to understand other forms of structural class, in order to be effective feminists. And if we’re not ..."

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Mad Fucking Witches aka “Clinical Psychologists”‏ @MadFckingWitch 3. velj

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3. The feminist response to this is “if it’s not about you, it’s not about you”. Which means that if a man doesn’t behave or think in the ways described, women aren’t talking about him. Women are capable of using “men” as a term that covers common male behaviour but at the ...

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4. ... same time, we’re well aware not all men display those characteristics. For example, people say “male violence” knowing full well not all men are violent. Or “male privilege” knowing not all men are conventionally privileged. Or “men are bastards” knowing not all men are.

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5. This often then segues into how most feminists love men & fight for their rights too, & the topic gets further de-railed (which may be what the #NotAllMen brigade want). Anyhow, the point is we want men to learn to suck up criticisms of men NOT AS INDIVIDUALS BUT AS A CLASS.

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6. NOW. This is where it gets tricky. Because here’s the thing: white women are privileged too: AS A CLASS. Not as individuals or small groups, but as a class of people, white women have more privilege & structural power than other women & than trans and non-binary folk.

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7. Other groups have more privilege AS A CLASS too. For example, while there are many people (esp. women) over 50 who are dreadfully deprived & persecuted, those people AS A CLASS have more privilege in most places than those younger. They hold most wealth & property & power.

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8. Straight people have privilege AS A CLASS. Cis people have privilege AS A CLASS. Non-disabled people have privilege AS A CLASS. To repeat: not all white, older, straight, cis & able people are particularly privileged & many are suffering. But THEIR CLASS is more privileged.

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9. So here’s the thing. What we notice at MFW is that many of the same people who want men to understand their class privilege will, at the same time, REFUSE to understand their own class privilege. Whenever we post about the negative propensities of some white women we are ...

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10. ... deluged with comments from OUTRAGED white women who won’t countenance a single criticism of their class. Even though ~50 percent of white women voted for Trump & large numbers of white women are disgracefully racist, white women are horrified by this being pointed out.

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11. We are literally SWAMPED by their #NotAllWhiteWomen comments. & it’s the same for every other type of privilege. People can’t bear having the general privilege of a class they’re in pointed out. In particular, older people ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to listen to the slightest ...

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12. ... criticism of their class. They are incandescent with rage even at the suggestion that it is their class which holds most of the money & power (& have done a shit job of handling both). Even though nobody has ever said the problem is all people in that structural class.

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13. All we have been trying to say (for years, now, with little headway) is that if women want men to understand structural class and stop saying #NotAllMen, we all also have to understand other forms of structural class, in order to be effective feminists. And if we’re not ...

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