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I'm satisfied here. Points are raised, mechanisms demonstrated, the response from someone who knows is, "yes but that is <0.1% of clicks." Yes is yes, and ad hominem attacks on me aside, 0.1% of clicks times $40k-per-leak consent decree terms is $ trillions. ...
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... so an official response is well deserved. On the charge of whitewashing Google, I hope not but it could be true. As I wrote, I only know what happened during Eric Schmidt's CEO tenure; others can better answer if Google is no longer as I knew it.
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...in fairness, maybe FaceBook does not technically leak if the app developer or advertiser takes the necessary action to get the data. "We sell guns and bullets, but it is the advertiser who loads the gun and pulls the trigger. Our hands are clean."
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Look, sorry to lay into you so much. I obviously take ad tech too seriously. I don't know the context of this email convo. It's ultimately Fallows who turned a private convo into a published
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You might read the item again, with care, before you make that kind of assumption or allegation. You can skip to the third paragraph of my intro.
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Fine. The details of how this ended up published are less interesting to me than the view it gives (particularly to those innocent of modern advertising) on how FB and GOOG pay for themselves (suspect that's true for most readers). I focus on the 'what' more than the 'how'.
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Right. And even more money when Google does the leaking. Here's the news when Google (after years) shut down passing along keywords in the ref URL. There was an entire industry dedicated to sucking in this data called 'search retargeting'.https://moz.com/blog/google-hides-search-referral-data-with-new-ssl-implementation-emergency-whiteboard-friday …
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Google actually leaked *more* data in the past when you were there, than it does now. Look, I get it. You didn't work on Ads. But then don't bill yourself as the insider expert on it. I'd never venture to issue a definitive opinion on mapping, for instance.
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I never attacked you at all. This isn't ad hominem. It's just a terribly misleading portrait of FB vs. GOOG monetization. It's doubly ironic, as the FB ads system is, in many literal ways, a copy of Google's (both the people who created it, and key elements like the auction).
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