Maya Forstater on Twitter: "More broadly it suggests a zero-sum view of development, and an overoptimistic vision of the potential for internal redistribution to deliver prosperity in countries where almost everyone is poor by global standards (7..)… https://t.co/0O1pkc79lP"

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Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 24 Apr 2018

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a) I embrace this critique, urging us to think more carefully b) Some of these objections are fair, but they are also true of aid more broadly - it's dangerous to myopically fixate on any indicator - many Development policies are prescriptive & hypocritical [not just inequality]

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Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 24 Apr 2018

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c) I think @MForstater is creating a straw man... While inequality could fall by curbing elite incomes, I doubt DfID can or would actually support this in practice. DfID would more likely support pro-poor social movements, pushing for fairer markets, politics & societies.pic.twitter.com/BPIaLST9NR

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Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 24 Apr 2018

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d) I read Labour's international development policy a little differently: Basically just saying that income inequality is a problem in L/MICs, and we should increase our support for domestic activists, pushing for redistribution & recognition.

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Alice Evans‏ @_alice_evans 24 Apr 2018

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e) Like @MForstater, I am dismayed and horrified that Labour omits the major benefits of immigration. (and i fear this reinforces, rather than challenges, the nasty xenophobia in our country)https://twitter.com/_alice_evans/status/978258538102493184 …

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Hi @KateOsamor, I've just read Labour's Vision for International Development: a fairer global economy https://www.policyforum.labour.org.uk/uploads/editor/files/World_For_The_Many.pdf … There's one weird omission: MIGRATION Mutually beneficial - to families here & abroad. Even more so with

co-operation, eg

https://www.cgdev.org/blog/cultivating-new-bargain-migration-three-recommendations-global-compact … pic.twitter.com/GVmAfpdrdm

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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Hi Alice. Thanks for the thread. I don't think i have created a straw man. I read A World for the Many Not the Few, and took what it said in good in good faith and tried to work out what it meant. (1/...)

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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Currently UK aid governed by a law that says that aid spending must be likely to reduce poverty. Below this DFID has four main objectives (+VFM) (2/...)pic.twitter.com/VSoXjAlysZ

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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The proposal is to have a new legal requirement that all aid should be aimed at reducing national inequality as well as reducing poverty. It says that the way this will be addressed is the Palma ratio. And there should be a reduced emphasis on economic growth. (3/...)

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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A change in the legal framework for aid is a big deal. I don't think its a straw man to suggest that civil servants will respond (and that by design they would be expected to respond). (4/...)

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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As @jonathanglennie 's car race shows the difference between poverty reduction and reducing inequality is to focus attention on those w higher incomes not streaking ahead. Palma looks at the top 10% Otherwise could stick w poverty reduction objective & call for greater focus. (5/

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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Presumably what would go would be this stuff: private sector investment, large scale energy, infrastructure, urban planning, commercial agriculture, financial services, CDC (6/..)pic.twitter.com/uB1sWYAMPB

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Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 25 Apr 2018

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More broadly it suggests a zero-sum view of development, and an overoptimistic vision of the potential for internal redistribution to deliver prosperity in countries where almost everyone is poor by global standards (7..)

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