Maya Forstater

My questions are (1) Are there other countries with direct register based systems (i.e. without requiring you go through a regulated CSP) that do serious verification? ...

(2) If not why has there been such a strong faith in centralised (public) registers and so much less focus on changing to CSP regulation systems? or (3) Is there another way to do this that bridges between cheap/easy registration (#doingbusiness) and verification of BO?

(2) beats me...(3) There's cheap and cheap. £10/regn & 500K companies/year = £5Mn budget for systems/enforcement; £100/regn = £50Mn.

The maths doesn't work like that though £10 registration gets you less than £10 worth of verification. If someone wants to use a company as a vehicle for a £1m crime or money laundering they will get around it.

Doesn't that strengthen my point? Say £5 of the £10 goes on systems, oversight etc (not just verification). A reg fee of £100 gets you £95 to spend: 19x increase. What is a plausible ROI (fraud reduction) on that increase? Maybe international comparisons would give some idea.

Yes good Qs & re: intl. comparison My point was that its the £/ registration that matters, not the total .Administrative systems tend towards 'computer-says-no' standardisation, whereas CSP regulation can allow more varied charges depending on difficulty - either way trade offs

Segment, then? Plain vanilla UK co incorporation for UK residents tolerates computer verification much more easily than exotic stuff for offshore types (where requiring a fully regulated and accountable TCSP might be a good idea).

I wonder if this wouldn't just lead to crooks using UK residents as stand-ins (the plain vanilla check would only be that the person registering is the person, not that they are really the actual BO)?