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    1. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 19 Mar 2018
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      Dan Neidle Retweeted Omri Marian

      Crikey, this point is so incredibly obvious I feel stupid to have missed it, but wouldn't a hard fork be a CGT disposal in the UK, on general principles?https://twitter.com/Omri_Marian/status/975847726972747776 …

      Dan Neidle added,

      Omri Marian @Omri_Marian
      I had the privilege of co-leading (with Kerry Ryan from @SLULAW ) this @ABATAXSECTION project, addressing the tax consequences of cryptocurrencies hard forks. @UCILaw https://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/taxation/policy/031918comments2.authcheckdam.pdf …
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    2. Omri Marian‏ @Omri_Marian 19 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle

      I know next to nothing about UK CGT, but shouldn't there be a "disposition"? Theoretically you dispose of nothing at the time of the fork. It's just that one day, one coin becomes two coins.

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    3. Patrick S Fitzgerald‏ @p_sfitz 19 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @Omri_Marian @DanNeidle

      Yes but you have disposed of/realised (theoretically) part of your first asset for the new coin. Taxable in Aus; specific CGT to catch receipt of rights; not taxable in CH unless trading ;)

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    4. Omri Marian‏ @Omri_Marian 19 Mar 2018
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      Why? You get to keep the original coin. You don't exchange one for the other. You keep both. It's more like a split.

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    5. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 19 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @Omri_Marian @p_sfitz

      I confess I have not thought about it for more than 5 seconds, and I could be wrong, but I expect the new coin is a "capital sum derived from an asset", and hence a taxable gain under s22(1). "capital sum" includes "money's worth", i.e. stuff convertible into cash.

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    6. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle 19 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @Omri_Marian @p_sfitz

      Given HMRC still have guidance up suggesting Bitcoin profits might amount to (non-taxable) gaming, they may not be entirely on this point. However - obvious caveat - anyone reading for whom this point is relevant should take independent advice. This is not advice.

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    7. Allison Christians‏ @profchristians 19 Mar 2018
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @Omri_Marian @p_sfitz

      I once thought it akin to a stock split but where there is independent market value of the coin you get for free (eg bitcoin cash), it seems hard to argue that you don’t have income.

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 20 Mar 2018
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