HLP's estimate is not of 'illegal tax evasion' (its not a tax loss number at all)
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Replying to @MForstater @CarterPaddy and
Ooohhh, true, much of the aggressive tax avoidance is not illegal in the sense that is has not been actually found illegal in the courts - yet. The result on the ground is the same - lost tax revenues
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Replying to @LarsKoch @CarterPaddy and
No - that's not what the HLP was trying to estimate -- it was trying to estimate' illicit financial flows' -- their number is not directly a tax loss either to avoidance or evasion. Its an estimate of a gross capital flow
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Replying to @MForstater @CarterPaddy and
Yes of course. Inspired by the GFI methodology it is gross IFF. It is not the estimate of tax loss - and I don't think the Danish text indicates that. The important issue is that we have huge amounts and only rough estimates. See also recent research by Zugman and colleagues
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Replying to @LarsKoch @CarterPaddy and
Maybe its lost in translation but 'Afrika snydes for mere end 300 milliarder kroner årligt i ulovlig skatteunddragelse' = Africa is cheated of more than 50 bn dollars annually in illegal tax evasion ? Suggest
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Replying to @MForstater @LarsKoch and
The next bit says "the United Nations Organization for Trade sets the figure much higher" NB: this one is a tax loss figure (but for a different group of countries/not 'Africa') - suggests that they think the figure above is a tax loss?
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Replying to @MForstater @CarterPaddy and
No, it is not stated clearly and can be interpreted wrong. I look forward to your continued endeavour into myths. Could I suggest e.g. into job creation from DFI finance and PS investments ?
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Replying to @LarsKoch @MForstater and
That is whataboutism
@LarsKoch . The issue here is that you cannot conclude that tax evasion is causing a loss of DKK 300bn yearly to Africa.@MForstater has translated the Danish text correctly.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
Replying to @pfchristensen @MForstater and
I agree and we so not say so. It just overall appears as an effort to undermine focus on an issue by stating the obvious. It is all estimates as it is hidden numbers. And yes, some times mis-represented numbers according to official estimates, but estimates vary substantially
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Replying to @LarsKoch @pfchristensen and
So if it is stating the obvious that the numbers are nonsense, shouldn't we not use those numbers in the first place?
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Exactly. If it was obvious e.g that the $3bn number about Zambia has no evidence behind it, or that GFIs $1 tn does not relate to 'Africa' or poorest countries then why are these errors continually repeated?
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Replying to @MForstater @p_sfitz and
Because it's part of an NGO campaign targeting Danish audience where it's considered more important to generate support (membership, finance & clicks) than research educating audience on the complexities of ei tax? Some Danish dev NGOs sadly mix up these two aproaches
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Replying to @Dunia_Duara @p_sfitz and
Maybe, or maybe the researchers really believe it because it seems to be from a reliable source. And much repeated
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