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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Javier Garcia-Bernardo‏ @javiergb_com 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

      Meaning that we lose the thread indeed, or the companies are owned by individuals (for instance in the case of Luxembourg).

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    2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @javiergb_com @DanNeidle and

      Losing the thread is a data thing - does not mean capital itself is sunk or stored there. In practice does this mean end of chain = funds?

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    3. Javier Garcia-Bernardo‏ @javiergb_com 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

      There is a correlation between ownership and capital flow. We don't know what happens after BM or VG, the capital is definitely not there.

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    4. Ben‏ @1867ben 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @javiergb_com @MForstater and

      You mean is not _beneficially owned_ there?

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    5. Javier Garcia-Bernardo‏ @javiergb_com 27 Jul 2017
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      It may, but the capital is not there. The company is incorporated in VG, the money is reinvested somewhere else.

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    6. Ben‏ @1867ben 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @javiergb_com @MForstater and

      So your comment about being 'reinvested' makes no sense if what you are missing is info on the credit side from the sinks.

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    7. Javier Garcia-Bernardo‏ @javiergb_com 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @1867ben @MForstater and

      If the ownership chain ends in VG and we're not missing info, then it is likely that capital flows there and gets reinvested.

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @javiergb_com @1867ben and

      Do you mean capital or returns? Returns flow up the chain to owners. Can be reinvested or paid out. Capital (apart from patents) not in OFCs

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    9. Javier Garcia-Bernardo‏ @javiergb_com 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @MForstater @1867ben and

      Returns sorry.

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    10. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @javiergb_com @1867ben and

      I think you mean 'returns' whenever you say 'capital' in the paper - it completely changes the meaning. It is back-to-front

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 27 Jul 2017
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      Replying to @MForstater @javiergb_com and

      e.g. G article opposite to your data 'Netherlands was conduit for 23% of corp investments that ended in a tax haven' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/25/netherlands-and-uk-are-biggest-channels-for-corporate-tax-avoidance …

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        1. Javier Garcia-Bernardo‏ @javiergb_com 27 Jul 2017
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          Replying to @MForstater @1867ben and

          We track both (one axis is investment from tax havens, other is investment to tax havens). They are very correlated.pic.twitter.com/3DxM7zvZ9p

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        2. Ben‏ @1867ben 27 Jul 2017
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          Replying to @javiergb_com @MForstater and

          Yes, we get that you track both - but is a 'sink' one which invests more than is invested or invested in more than invests?

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        1. Ben‏ @1867ben 27 Jul 2017
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          Replying to @MForstater @javiergb_com and

          Started in a tax haven is more like.

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        2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 27 Jul 2017
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          Replying to @1867ben @javiergb_com and

          Exactly!

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