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    2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 20 Aug 2020
      Replying to @graceelavery

      In the sense that I tweeted the article? If that is editorialising? No that metaphor wasn't discussed at my employment tribunal although the tweet does appear in the judgement (presented so that it conflates things I have written w something that was a screen shot ).

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    3. (((Eli Yurman)))‏ @EliYurman 20 Aug 2020
      Replying to @MForstater @graceelavery

      Maya I dont know very much about you, to be honest, but it does feel like you’re going out of your way to avoid answering Grace’s questions here

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    4. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 21 Aug 2020
      Replying to @EliYurman @graceelavery

      What question?

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    5. (((Eli Yurman)))‏ @EliYurman 21 Aug 2020
      Replying to @MForstater @graceelavery

      can you see why rape survivors might be insulted or upset by a comparison between pronoun usage and rohypnol? even if you didn’t write the or originate the comparison, can you understand why some people might find the sharing of that rhetoric insulting, or trivializing?

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater 21 Aug 2020
      Replying to @EliYurman @graceelavery

      Sure, it is provocative metaphor. The article is thoughtful. It argues that using non-intuitive pronouns is not cognitively or politically cost free for the speaker. It's is not a throwaway line. Yes some may find the metaphor offensive. Do you want to ban writing that offends?

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        2. (((Eli Yurman)))‏ @EliYurman 21 Aug 2020
          Replying to @MForstater @graceelavery

          I wouldn't advocate for banning or making illegal this speech, but as a writer and editor I would discourage someone from making this comparison in the first place – even explained, it doesn't seem to justify comparing non-intuitive pronouns to a well-known rape drug, (1/2)

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        3. (((Eli Yurman)))‏ @EliYurman 21 Aug 2020
          Replying to @EliYurman @MForstater @graceelavery

          one with specifically negative connotations that feel disproportionate to the inconvenience pronouns cause – and I would certainly discourage someone with your platform size from spreading this kind of language, that seems designed to cause outrage and hurt (2/2)

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        1. Real Americans are Anti-Fascist.‏ @athie_gnome 21 Aug 2020
          Replying to @MForstater @EliYurman @graceelavery

          It's an article that refuses to acknowledge other people's experiences. It's the same as the white Americans who get mad when asked to affirm that Black Lives Matter. Supporting stuff like that isn't a crime, and shouldn't be. The consequence should just be social exile.

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        1. MayaScientist‏ @MadScientist212 21 Aug 2020
          Replying to @MForstater @EliYurman @graceelavery

          So once again you dodge the question while then shifting the goal posts by mentioning banning writing. I mean, if I said I'm disgusted and ashamed to share your first name, you might find my words offensive. Does that mean you believe they should be illegal?

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        2. Zinnia Jones‏Verified account @ZJemptv 21 Aug 2020
          Replying to @MForstater @EliYurman @graceelavery

          Sounds like you should read my essay, "Transphobes are fentanyl: a provocative metaphor"

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        3. RAGEPATH‏ @ragepath 3 Oct 2020
          Replying to @ZJemptv @MForstater and

          "Gender essentialism: the hemlock of rational thought"

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        1. Will Never Shut Up About Rape Culture‏ @ShieldingC 21 Aug 2020
          Replying to @MForstater @EliYurman @graceelavery

          The article claims that a world in which girls are not actively made to feel afraid of rape is a bad idea. It's so toxic on so many levels to justify transmisia on the grounds that "but if girls are not taught to be terrified of trans women, how can we keep them SAFE?"

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        1. RAGEPATH‏ @ragepath 3 Oct 2020
          Replying to @MForstater @EliYurman @graceelavery

          Calling people by their preferred titles is not rape. They are two very different things. People should face consequences for saying offensive things. Your entire argument seems to concede that point, at least.

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