"Who are you calling cis?" I hear so many nice men & women adopting the language of "cis" as if it is an easy accomadation to inclusion. It isn't. It turns feminism inside out. It makes it impossible to speak about women & denies us freedom of association. To whose benefit?https://twitter.com/MForstater/status/1206722121096978433 …
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Replying to @costrike
Read the thread. "cis" means there is no word for female people (aka: women), they are cis women, transmen and some non-binary people.
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What does that mean? Can I assert my atheism without invalidating someone else's lived experience of their god? No. if that means i have to see their experience as true or meaningful to me Yes. if it means i recognise it is 'valid' for them to have their religious experience
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Yes i agree. It is a good starting point. The thing is we have provisions for women - e.g. single sex spaces: refuges, prisons, changing rooms, women's sports. These were set up in recognition that for equality & inclusion in public life, sometimes sex needs to be considered
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These things are protected w rights. These rights are not about what women wear, whether they identify with feminine ideals or gender norms. They are just determined by sex. There is no right way to live as a woman, in fact that is a sexist idea we are trying to get away from.
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So going back to your Q why should a male's lived experience of having a feminine gender identity grant them access to facilities and rights that were set up for members of the opposite sex -- given that this will disadvantage those people that the rights were established for?
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I would want to retain data collection & human rights protections based on sex (which includes the right not to be discriminated for being gender non-conforming in appearance). Different beliefs about gender identity can be accommodated, just like different beliefs about gods.
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