. @jameskirkup is on the ball as ever.
As he notes one of the barriers to discussion of this topic is decorum and good manners
"If you’d asked to set out my limited journalistic ambitions, using the word ‘penis’ repeatedly in The Spectator would not have topped the list"https://twitter.com/jameskirkup/status/1204056806613536770 …
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Even writing a list of these things is undignified! They are not things you really want to be talking about willynilly with your broad social network And any unknown accounts that do want to strike up conversation may be enjoying it a bit too much
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Maya Forstater @MForstaterThere are lots of things that it is normal for women to do in female only spaces. Undress, be naked, moisturise legs, ask someone to do up the zip on a dress, comment on each others appearance, ask if anyone has a tampon, talk between toilet stalls to ask for paper etcShow this thread1 reply 3 retweets 21 likesShow this thread -
And if you don't want talk about this body stuff (or about genitals) in public .... you definitely don't want to be sharing intimate confined spaces with colleagues, classmates & strangers of the opposite sex when doing them
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Which is why we have single sex spaces & services. So you don't have to. People who make guidelines and rules (
@EHRC I'm looking at you) it is your responsibility to have these conversations, because it is unfair to expect teenage girls to negotiate these things with grown men1 reply 3 retweets 39 likesShow this thread -
Grown men like
@eddieizzard who thinks it it is fine to go into a women's loo because he wants to change into a dress, and who views the teenage girls who are frightened as big meanies https://medium.com/@MichaelConroy68/my-first-day-out-by-eddie-izzard-c8ff9bcae245 … (h/t@MichealConraoi )4 replies 10 retweets 62 likesShow this thread -
"What do you find most difficult about using a woman's restroom today" asks the Hollywood Reporter ....
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Women & girls boundaries are so hard to talk about. Its embarrassing to talk about body stuff. Its hard to draw a line when its not clear what is appropriate Its impolite to say no when boundaries are pushed And then you get called a prude
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Which is why we shouldn't don't make people negotiate whether 'single sex' spaces can include members of the opposite sex on a case-by-case base basis. "We are not going to start a scenario where we go and you know perform inspections on people are we? " says Jo Swinson.
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Its a common trope that is used to shut down the discussion if someone raises this issue clearly enough. Its aggressive.
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No the teenage girl, the woman at work, the patient going for a mammogram does not want to think about, inspect, discuss or know anything anyone's genitals. They just want to be able to go about normal everyday, embarrassing, personal body stuff with ordinary privacy.
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