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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Nov 26
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      The Mackereth decision did not just say that the employer had a legitimate aim to restrict expression of the view, it named *the view itself* incompatible with human dignity. And this is the precedent you work with. The Christian Legal Centre poisoned the well for you.

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    2. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Nov 26
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      This would be more clean-cut if you did not attempt to submit an anti-trans work about development, in my view. The work was rightly rejected as incompatible with the values of the company. They could perhaps claim that you intended to keep submitting such incompatible works?

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    3. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Nov 26
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      My preferred outcome would be an ironclad work-personal border. As in, your views were rightly NOT protected when you attempted to express them at work, but expressing them off work under a disclaimer should not have figured in work decisions.

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    4. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Nov 26
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      (The work "Let;s Talk About Sex" is also in my view bad scholarship, as it talks about women's rights and fails to take into account CEDAW GRs 28 and 35 which clearly include trans women as women. However I don't think they claim they rejected it for tat reason?)

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    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 27
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      It really doesn't though. Because if the international community was going to redefine something as fundamental as the meaning of "woman" from female person to "anyone who says they are a woman", it wouldn't be something you could do by sleight of hand in para 18 of a CEDAW GR

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    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 27
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      As paragraph 4 of GR 28 reiterates: the objective of the Convention is the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women on the basis of sexpic.twitter.com/vEChNSiLIY

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 27
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      It then goes onto talk about gender based discrimination against women, referring to socially constructed identities, attributes and roles for women.pic.twitter.com/cUcoKr7xX0

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 27
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      "transwoman" is not a socially constructed identity, attribute or role for female people It is a socially constructed identity for male people.

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 27
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      In paragraph 18 it goes on to talk about intersectionality: religion, health, age, class, sexual orientation and gender identity. None of this says that an ill man, and old man, a working class man, or a feminine man is woman. Because that would be silly.pic.twitter.com/iJGTLyYNak

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    10. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Nov 27
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      So you think that the "gender identity" part was intended to apply to trans men, who are, in your view, female people with a different gender identity? This is not, however, how the CEDAW Committee uses it in practice. The recommendations for Georgia http://docstore.ohchr.org/SelfServices/FilesHandler.ashx?enc=6QkG1d%2FPPRiCAqhKb7yhsldCrOlUTvLRFDjh6%2Fx1pWDqKYdAsZCi%2FpTG5mONu7rLEgGDzc4uYj4EX9q0OwgEtztAerYJ0NdpVEHSESZXwGVBSGu0UKju%2FbfiY1zaPP1F … say:pic.twitter.com/UMMVpdu79C

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 27
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      I expect like most organisations and institutions they haven't thought it through properly. Why would CEDAW decide that "women" includes transwomen but not transmen - how does this apply in relation to article 12 for example?

      8:29 AM - 27 Nov 2019
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        2. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Nov 27
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          You certainly can believe that the major women's rights organizations have all "not thought it through properly" and the Vatican and others did. But you can not push this belief at work in an organization whose values align with said organizations.

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