The Mackereth case establishes that it is right and proper, at least, to gag your view *at work*. You write in (71) that trans-inclusive spaces at work make you feel uncomfortable; the Mackereth case seems to answer "your own problem"; there's another too.https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/store-failed-to-take-the-grievances-of-a-transgender-staff-member-seriously-36612162.html …
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Replying to @ramendik @MForstater
But a very interesting question in your case is whether there is a legally recognized boundary where a view can be gagged at work and yet protected from discrimination when expressed off work.
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To be honest, I do not see this boundary in UK law. But then I am not a lawyer (nor in the UK, but the Republic of Ireland setup seems broadly similar - Northern Ireland on the other hand is different as political views are expressly protected there).
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Personally I would prefer that such a boundary would exist, and that views lawfully and properly disallowed at work could still be protected from employment discrimination when expressed outside work.
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So I think you are saying that in your view yes this is a protected belief under the EqA (i.e. it meets the 5 Grainger criteria)? And like all protected beliefs the question of whether an employer can restrain expression of the belief is one of proportionate means/legitimate aim?
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It is not just about my views. There already is the Mackereth decision, which named he view incompatible with criterion 5. The question is whether this incompatibility is conditional on the view being applied at work, or absolute. I'd prefer "conditional".
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The Mackereth decision did not just say that the employer had a legitimate aim to restrict expression of the view, it named *the view itself* incompatible with human dignity. And this is the precedent you work with. The Christian Legal Centre poisoned the well for you.
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This would be more clean-cut if you did not attempt to submit an anti-trans work about development, in my view. The work was rightly rejected as incompatible with the values of the company. They could perhaps claim that you intended to keep submitting such incompatible works?
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My preferred outcome would be an ironclad work-personal border. As in, your views were rightly NOT protected when you attempted to express them at work, but expressing them off work under a disclaimer should not have figured in work decisions.
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(The work "Let;s Talk About Sex" is also in my view bad scholarship, as it talks about women's rights and fails to take into account CEDAW GRs 28 and 35 which clearly include trans women as women. However I don't think they claim they rejected it for tat reason?)
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It really doesn't though. Because if the international community was going to redefine something as fundamental as the meaning of "woman" from female person to "anyone who says they are a woman", it wouldn't be something you could do by sleight of hand in para 18 of a CEDAW GR
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As paragraph 4 of GR 28 reiterates: the objective of the Convention is the elimination of all forms of discrimination against women on the basis of sexpic.twitter.com/vEChNSiLIY
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It then goes onto talk about gender based discrimination against women, referring to socially constructed identities, attributes and roles for women.pic.twitter.com/cUcoKr7xX0
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