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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Nov 7
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      Replying to @robertnpalmer @TaxJusticeUK @taxwatch

      So how does this financial transaction tax on derivatives work?

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    2. Robert Palmer‏ @robertnpalmer Nov 7
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @TaxJusticeUK @taxwatch

      We’re updating that section as we didn’t cite the most up-to-date report https://progressiveeconomyforum.com/events/making-the-uk-a-citadel-of-long-term-finance/ …. @KevalBharadia is your man on the details

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    3. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Nov 7
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      Replying to @robertnpalmer @TaxJusticeUK and

      Oh dear. The authors of that report derive the number by looking at the value of derivatives today. Which is nothing to do with the value of derivatives when they’re created - that value is £0.

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    4. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Nov 7
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @robertnpalmer and

      So a financial transaction tax literally cannot work that way. The £4.8bn figure is junk.

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    5. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Nov 7
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @robertnpalmer and

      Who reviewed this report?

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    6. John Ralfe‏ @JohnRalfe1 Nov 7
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @robertnpalmer and

      I thought it was intended to apply as a (small) percentage of the notional value, a bit like stamp duty?

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    7. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Nov 7
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      That was the EU 2011 proposal, which was dropped ‘cause notional value is essentially meaningless economically. This report looks at market value, which has the slight disadvantage of being zero day one. It’s a bit odd.

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 7
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @JohnRalfe1 and

      Also the 6bn from unitary taxation is based on extrapolation from what UK might gain if taxable profits on US MNEs were distributed by formula, but does not seem to take into account what the UK would lose if profits of UK MNEs were similarly distributed to other countriespic.twitter.com/VOwUyiNu24

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    9. Dan Neidle‏ @DanNeidle Nov 7
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      Replying to @MForstater @JohnRalfe1 and

      Is that right?

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    10. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 7
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      Replying to @DanNeidle @JohnRalfe1 and

      So the 6bn figure comes from the PSI report https://pop-umbrella.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/9dacd52a-6987-4dcb-a90c-4a1146f4a342_Taxing%20Multinationals.pdf … which references "another study" - which when you follow the footnote is Cobham, Faccio and Fitzgerald 2019 https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/j3p48/ … ....pic.twitter.com/dfRezkgKRJ

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 7
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      Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

      Saying "it is only based on one data source" makes it sound like a point about data quality. But the salient thing about the Cobham, Faccio & Fitzgerald study which is being skated over here is it is only based on redistributing the profits of US MNEspic.twitter.com/goZ76wjp4M

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        1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 7
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          Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

          The 'IMF model' being tested is that routine profits are taxed in relation to where capital assets are, and residual profits are taxed by a formula of sales & employment.pic.twitter.com/saEVE0Nd7q

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        2. Alex Jacobs‏ @AlexJacobs16 Nov 7
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          Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

          But these are policies for the UK. Sadly the rest of the world's out of this doc's orbit for the moment! Isn't the manifesto something to celebrate & encourage? Specific ideas to make tax more fair. Of course they're not perfectly refined: 33 policies in 13 pages. But overall?

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        1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 7
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          Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

          Also the 8bn from "taxing the offshore structures used by tech giant firms" https://www.taxwatchuk.org/taxing_uk_tech_royalties/ … is biting the same cherry. You cannot add these together!

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        2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Nov 7
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          Replying to @MForstater @DanNeidle and

          How any of this reconciles with the principle of citizenship based taxes or strengthening taxation of controlled foreign companies I don't know.pic.twitter.com/rZobjQiKRn

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