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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Alessandra Asteriti‏ @AlessandraAster Oct 17
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      Replying to @SpinningHugo @artefactoid and

      You seem to think if we are reasonable people will not accuse us to be offensive. We are reasonable. Megan Murphy, Canadian feminist, was permanently banned from Twitter for saying 'That's him', referring to transwoman who was still, at the time, also using male name.

      1 reply 1 retweet 20 likes
    2. Alessandra Asteriti‏ @AlessandraAster Oct 17
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      Replying to @AlessandraAster @SpinningHugo and

      So basically you seem to take the very male attitude that if there is a dispute involving women, we must have been the hysterical and unreasonable ones.

      1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
    3. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 17
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      Replying to @AlessandraAster @artefactoid and

      1. I think that wholly unfair, sorry. The suggestion I have accused anyone of being "hysterical" is untrue. 2. Reasonable people make mistakes all the time. I know I do. I consider you mistaken as to whether this is the morally right thing to do.

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    4. Alessandra Asteriti‏ @AlessandraAster Oct 17
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      Replying to @SpinningHugo @artefactoid and

      You seem to insist we should be reasonable. We already are. You did not say we made a mistake, but that we should be reasonable (assumption being we are not). We are the reasonable ones in this debate. Asking to consider biology, need for women to have rights, risks for children

      2 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 17
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      Replying to @AlessandraAster @SpinningHugo and

      What you did say was the stickers were put up for "no good purpose" but only to cause offence. And people have explained to you (1) that the purpose of stating the definition of woman is in order to fight for that clear definition and....

      1 reply 0 retweets 13 likes
    6. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 17
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      Replying to @MForstater @AlessandraAster and

      (2) that they were a response to stickers whose message is that to recognise biology (as in your first tweet) is "transphobia".

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 17
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      Replying to @MForstater @AlessandraAster and

      In judging the stickerers to be "behaving very badly for no good purpose, and should stop" did you understand the context, but dismiss the reasons, or not understand the context as well as you do now? (And has any part of that assessment changed with knowing the context?)

      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    8. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 18
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      Replying to @MForstater @AlessandraAster and

      I don't think the reasons were good enough, given the context and other options available. I still don't. Sorry.

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 18
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      Replying to @SpinningHugo @AlessandraAster and

      I sense a shift...😁from the absolute "no good purpose" to "I don't judge the reasons for taking this particular course of action to be good enough". Which kinda begs the question of what action you are taking to defend women's single sex spaces?

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 18
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      Replying to @MForstater @AlessandraAster and

      Lots of things that other people consider to be good things that I do not do all the time. I fail to fund mosquito nets for malaria protection, don't spend very much time volunteering, and don't do all manner of other things. I should spend less time on twitter, I accept.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 18
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      Replying to @SpinningHugo @AlessandraAster and

      Indeed we all put effort & personal risk into different things at different times. The thing is u assert that the stickerers were wrong to act because there are alternative ways & contexts for arguing that the definition of woman means female, which will not cause offence...

      1:47 AM - 18 Oct 2019
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        1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 18
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          Replying to @MForstater @SpinningHugo and

          ...and we, the people who have put effort into this, tell you from experience there are not. Any expression of this will be judged offensive and will lead to serious personal consequences such as being de-platformed, ostracised & people trying to get you fired.

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