Some words, even when factually true, are offensive in context. The stickering didn't argue for women only spaces or anything of that kind. It was just aimed at telling transwomen that they are not women.
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Replying to @SpinningHugo @amymcconnellme and
Maya Forstater Retweeted
Hugo: this is the context as
@giagia, long of these parts, tells it https://twitter.com/giagia/status/1172813170546806784 … The idea that women are just asking in the wrong way, causing needless offence by not being rational or sensitive enough is naive (as we have learnt)Maya Forstater added,
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Replying to @MForstater @amymcconnellme and
If members of a group have behaved unreasonably or said offensive things to you, or members of your group, in the past, I don't think that means you have a liberty you otherwise wouldn't have to behave towards members of that group differently than otherwise in "self defence".
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Replying to @SpinningHugo @MForstater and
We are acting in self-defence Hugo. It’s you who don’t realise what’s going on. Two questions for you - as a lawyer. Is there any other subject where you would be so blithe about words being redefined? And - 1/2
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Replying to @HJoyceGender @SpinningHugo and
2/2 is there any other subject where you would tell one party to a conflict of interest that she should be ‘kind’? We are having our rights, privacy & dignity stolen! You are ignorant of all that – because you are a man. You are a long way from understanding what’s going on
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Replying to @HJoyceGender @MForstater and
The "self defence" claim is not one that I think withstands scrutiny. If someone attacks me, I acquire a privilege to behave towards them differently than otherwise. So, I can punch an attacker on the nose to defend myself. No wrong committed by me. /1
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Replying to @SpinningHugo @MForstater and
So, assuming, arguendo, that large numbers of trans people have behaved unreasonably towards personally, saying many offensive things, does that confer a privilege upon you (or others on your behalf) to behave in a way that would otherwise be impermissible? /2
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Replying to @SpinningHugo @MForstater and
The answer is no, because trans people do not form a corporate entity (any more than women do) to whom all the acts of all that class can be attributed, entitling you to behave differently than you otherwise would. So "self defence" has no application here. /3
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Replying to @SpinningHugo @MForstater and
As to your questions. 1. I am not blithe about it. I expressed no view. 2. I think everyone should always try to be kind. I believe in the Golden Rule as a rule of morality. I am saddened that so many do not. 3. Maybe as a man I can't understand. If so, I'll never know it.
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I appreciate your patience and civility in this discussion (and obviously you talking to a lot of people who have responded) , but you did express a view. ...
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Replying to @MForstater @SpinningHugo and
This one: trying to defend the definition of woman, if people find it offensive] "is a very bad way to behave, and the people doing it should stop doing so"
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