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    1. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      SpinningHugo Retweeted James Kirkup

      Public insults, a short thread. The statements stuck up around Oxford are “Woman: noun. Adult human female” And: “Women don’t have penises” As a matter of human biology these are statements of fact. In context they have been posted in order to offend a group of people. /1https://twitter.com/jameskirkup/status/1184004292308623362 …

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      James KirkupVerified account @jameskirkup
      A ‘transphobic’ crime wave has hit Oxford: stickers so offensive the police refuse to describe them. (The stickers say “Women don’t have penises” and “Woman = adult human female”) https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/a-transphobic-crime-wave-has-hit-oxford/ …
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    2. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      The context is the widespread writing and stickering of the message "Trans Joy is Real" around Oxford. So, in context, the message of the above statements is "Transwomen are not women." A statement calculated to offend. /2

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    3. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      The law is the easy bit. Stickering and writing on public property like this is criminal damage, but that is unrelated to the message. Is the public message itself, which some find offensive and may be seen as "hateful" a crime? /3

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    4. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      The possible offence is s 5 of the Public Order Act 1986. That section requires words that are "threatening or abusive." The word "insulting" has been deleted, and so "abusive" does not include that. Is this abusive? I think not. So no crime as a matter of the law. /4

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    5. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      Should it be criminal? If we think, as utilitarians do, that the law is there to maximise something (happiness, preferences, something else) then it looks plausible that we should criminalise this. Perhaps the world would be happier overall if we banned such public words. /5

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    6. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      if we think, as some moralists do, that law should in some way track morality, and seek to make us conform to our good reasons for action, then again we might want to criminalise this. The words are calculated to offend a group that understands them, for no good purpose. /6

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    7. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      So, if the question were "Is posting such offensive messages a good way to behave?" the answer is no. It is a very bad way to behave, and the people doing it should stop doing so. but I don't think such moral reasoning is enough to justify criminalisation. /7

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    8. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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      Nobodies ability to live their life as they choose is set back by these words. Offence and upset are insufficient reasons to merit criminalisation. It is very unfortunate that the UK police seem to think they are in the business of making us be good. /end

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 15
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      Maya Forstater Retweeted Alessandra Asteriti

      Nice thread. But i think u are missing that they were put up for good reason. To make a political argument (This one: https://twitter.com/AlessandraAster/status/1172421643768979456 …) not mindlessly to amuse or offend. i.e. is it offensive for a prison, a sports body, a doctor etc... to state that women are female?

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      Alessandra Asteriti @AlessandraAster
      What is in a slogan? (short thread) TWAW. No debate. Get used to it. I see legal academics say this, especially to women and feminists. It is supposed to close down debate. But they are lawyers. Used to parse the meaning of words. So let's do some parsing.
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        2. SpinningHugo‏ @SpinningHugo Oct 15
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          Of course that doesn't matter. My claim is that this is lawful, and ought to be, regardless of whether its sole purpose is to mindlessly offend.

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Oct 15
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          Right. I know it doesn't matter for yr conclusion, but still along the way say that the context is 'to offend', when in fact the context is serious legal & policy changes which affect women's rights. The morality answer is not as clear cut as you present! https://euppublishing.com/doi/full/10.3366/scot.2019.0284 …

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        2. Paul Brennan  🕊‏ @PaoloBrennan Oct 16
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          Do stickers on lampposts constitute a political argument?

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        3. Zetetic Elench‏ @ZeteticEl Oct 16
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          Yes

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