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Business and sustainable development. Accountability. Tax. Feminist test case. Media: Tom Gardner at Slater & Gordon 0207 657 1690 press@slatergordon.co.uk

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    1. Audrey Ludwig‏ @AudreySuffolk Sep 29
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      Audrey Ludwig Retweeted good queen wencesliz  🎅🏼 🎄 🌹

      That requires the clients to hold the same philosophical belief as the trans person at the crisis centre (and you). Not very inclusivehttps://twitter.com/escaped_ferret/status/1177525728834969600 …

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      good queen wencesliz  🎅🏼 🎄 🌹 @escaped_ferret
      Replying to @mark_mclaughlin @Jefflez
      Transwomen are women, so someone at a rape crisis centre wouldn’t be talking to a man if a trans woman was employed there. They’d be talking to a woman.
      6 replies 13 retweets 116 likes
    2. H Owen‏ @HeidiOwen12 Sep 29
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      Replying to @AudreySuffolk

      I'd hesitate to call it a philosophical belief, but I may be wrong.

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    3. Audrey Ludwig‏ @AudreySuffolk Sep 29
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      Replying to @HeidiOwen12

      That is precisely what @MForstater Employment Tribunal will decide. Whether the belief in gender identity (or more importantly for her, the non-belief) constitutes a protected philosophical belief under the Equality Act. I think it does, as it meets the Grainger v Nicolson test

      1 reply 2 retweets 18 likes
    4. H Owen‏ @HeidiOwen12 Sep 29
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      Replying to @AudreySuffolk @MForstater

      Oh, I see, thank you. I would have thought it was simply an opinion, and one that is tricky to substantiate. But I can see from what you say that this is a way of approaching it legally. I wonder how the law distinguishes between opinion and philosophical belief.

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    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 29
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      I think I can recite these in my sleep 😁pic.twitter.com/buo6ige2M2

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    6. H Owen‏ @HeidiOwen12 Sep 29
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      Replying to @MForstater

      So if it meets the criteria and is "protected", that means you don't have to share it?

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 29
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      Replying to @HeidiOwen12

      It means you shouldnt face discrimination for believing or not believing. Like you shouldn't face discrimination in employment or as a service user for being a Catholic, or not being a Catholic, say.

      2:57 AM - 29 Sep 2019
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        1. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 29
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          . @Julian_Norman1 made good points at the @Womans_Place_UK House of Lords event about why the beliefs framework is a way of protecting the rights of all https://womansplaceuk.org/julian-norman-in-house-of-lords/ …pic.twitter.com/DjPbVBjCUh

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        1. H Owen‏ @HeidiOwen12 Sep 29
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          I see.

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