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    1. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 23
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      Nope. Unless you want to leave the jurisdiction of the European Court of Human Rights, the civil status of sex must be changeable, though self-ID is not a requirement. https://echr.coe.int/Documents/FS_Gender_identity_ENG.pdf …

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    2. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 23
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      Replying to @ramendik @Flashmaggie and

      I do agree the guidance should be made clearer and easier to find. I found the guidance that says M&S etc were right abut trans inclusion in cubicled changing rooms, but when the misguided protests happened nobody found it. https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/servicescode_0.pdf … p 198

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    3. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 23
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      Replying to @ramendik @Flashmaggie and

      I would hope that the guidance issued is restrictive, and clearly says that a "single sex" service is trans inclusive unless there is explicit notice posted that it is trans exclusive, which is acceptable in very limited circumstances.

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    4. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 23
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      Replying to @ramendik @Flashmaggie and

      Given that being trans (i.e. having the protected characteristic of gender reassignment) is v. wide criteria, this in practice means the service is mixed sex. So then it should be labelled mixed sex (which with floor-to-ceiling cubicles, as you say, is fine)

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    5. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 23
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      Replying to @MForstater @ramendik and

      The point is there should be clear expectations for all - women should be able to be told clearly if a changing room, toilet, dorm, showers whatever is single sex or mixed.

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    6. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 24
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      Replying to @MForstater @Flashmaggie and

      You seem to be arguing from a user right to expect segregation, but UK law does not have such a right. The closest I can think of is a Canadian case, which establishes a right to privacy from "other sex" when nude only.

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    7. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 24
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      Replying to @ramendik @MForstater and

      However, when there is actual shared nudity (not the case in toilets), the "indistinguishable for all practical purposes" guidance can be applied, which in that specific case means genital configuration as visible. It was probably written *for* that specific case.

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 24
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      Replying to @ramendik @Flashmaggie and

      No. If a woman is vulnerable in a space which she has been told is female only and hears a man's voice, she does not have to wait to *see* his genitals to distinguish and to panic. People should be told clearly if spaces are single sex or mixed sex.

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    9. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 24
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      Replying to @MForstater @Flashmaggie and

      The current government guidance says otherwise. you want to make the law, as practiced, more restrictive towards trans people.

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    10. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 24
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      Replying to @ramendik @MForstater and

      And not just trans people. A woman can just as easily "panic" by seeing or hearing a GNC cis woman. Best practice is moving away from such panics.pic.twitter.com/T8It4wBATM

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 24
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      Replying to @ramendik @Flashmaggie and

      If there is no such thing as the "wrong bathroom" why bother having two different bathrooms in the first place?

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        2. Baddy Sea Lion Misha Ramendik MC1R‏ @ramendik Sep 24
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          Replying to @MForstater @Flashmaggie and

          Honestly? Because of urinals. Men with penises need to use them and not be seen by obvious women (or else much more space is needed). Many women also don't want to see urinals in action.

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        3. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 24
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          Replying to @ramendik @Flashmaggie and

          Actually no, women also don't want men to walk into our cubicled toilets either. Otherwise building and school regs would say 'provide urinals separately'. But they don't, they say provide separate provision for males & females.

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