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    1. Alice Sullivan‏ @ProfAliceS Sep 19
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      PS @RoryFitzESS I'd be very happy to discuss this with you offline.

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    2. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 19
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      Replying to @ProfAliceS @LucyHunterB and

      I think the confusion starts here! Variable: "gender", Literal question : "sex"pic.twitter.com/yiz8eXQWxh

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    4. Alice Sullivan‏ @ProfAliceS Sep 20
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      Replying to @RoryFitzESS @MForstater and

      Gender was always (and still often is) treated as a synonym for sex. So I don’t think it would have been an issue for historical papers. It’s only recently that some people have started to use gender to mean ‘gender identity’ as opposed to a social structure.

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    5. Alice Sullivan‏ @ProfAliceS Sep 20
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      Replying to @ProfAliceS @RoryFitzESS and

      So we now need to be really clear in distinguishing between: 1 sex; 2: gender (social structure treating m and f differently based on sex); and 3: gender identity. It strikes me that 3 might be better captured with some kind of scale.

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    6. Alice Sullivan‏ @ProfAliceS Sep 20
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      But of course it depends what is meant by gender identity, and that is far from clear. We shouldn’t try to measure it until we know what we’re trying to capture.

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    7. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 20
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      Replying to @ProfAliceS @RoryFitzESS and

      Yes, danger with current conflation goes two ways. (1) most people will answer a question on 'gender' with their sex (using the old convention) but then this is interpreted as meaning everyone has a "gender identity" (although it's not clear what that is).

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    8. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 20
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      Replying to @MForstater @ProfAliceS and

      (2) some people find it uncomfortable to answer a question about their sex, or they don't believe it's a legitimate concept. You still want to survey these ppl to avoid bias and u still want to know their actual sex.

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    9. Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 20
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      Replying to @MForstater @ProfAliceS and

      Solution might be to use language of "sex assigned at birth" w these ppl to clarify (i.e. "some ppl think of this as sex assigned at birth, it is what was written on yr birth certificate") but not to impose this interpretation on all, since sex is observed at birth, not assigned.

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    10. Lucy HunterBlackburn‏ @LucyHunterB Sep 20
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      Replying to @MForstater @ProfAliceS and

      The big UK govt LGBT survey published earlier this year asked separately about sex assigned at birth (I’d prefer recorded/observed) and a question on what people identified as (would need to check exactly how phrased).

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 20
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      Replying to @LucyHunterB @ProfAliceS and

      I know ESS doesn't do quota sampling, but imagine how the idea that the researcher can't accurately gauge a person's sex would work in that context. e.g. need men to complete a survey, but must pretend they can't tell if the people in front of them are ♂️or♀️🙄

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