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    1. Janice Turner‏Verified account @VictoriaPeckham Sep 19
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      Replying to @mattlodder @ShelaghFogarty

      Genuine question

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    2.  🌹 💘 dr matt lodder  🤓 🌹‏Verified account @mattlodder Sep 19
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      Replying to @VictoriaPeckham @ShelaghFogarty

      In the interests of polite discourse, I'll take you at your word. There's a really easy answer: You identify as a woman. You're therefore not non-binary by definition. The ideas underpinning that are more complex, of course, but your question has a straightforward answer.

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    3.  🌹 💘 dr matt lodder  🤓 🌹‏Verified account @mattlodder Sep 19
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      Replying to @mattlodder @VictoriaPeckham @ShelaghFogarty

      If you do identify as non-binary -- if you've come out since writing this -- then, of course, you're non-binary. "Gender non-conforming" is not the same as "non-binary", though.

      5 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    4. Janice Turner‏Verified account @VictoriaPeckham Sep 19
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      Replying to @mattlodder @ShelaghFogarty

      How? I do not wholly identify with feminine gender norms. I like lots of male gender stuff like muddy sports, being forceful and wearing comfortable shoes. How am I not non-binary?

      3 replies 1 retweet 75 likes
    5.  🌹 💘 dr matt lodder  🤓 🌹‏Verified account @mattlodder Sep 19
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      Replying to @VictoriaPeckham @ShelaghFogarty

      Because what you like, and how you present, are (related to) gender presentation. They are not gender identity. You identify, despite your likes, as a woman, no?

      15 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    6.  🌹 💘 dr matt lodder  🤓 🌹‏Verified account @mattlodder Sep 19
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      Replying to @mattlodder @VictoriaPeckham @ShelaghFogarty

      I mean this really sincerely: how have you been writing about this stuff for so long and you still don't understand these crucial distinctions?

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. Janice Turner‏Verified account @VictoriaPeckham Sep 19
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      Replying to @mattlodder @ShelaghFogarty

      And I understand it perfectly well, thanks for the 'splaining. But it gender ideology has absolutely no basis in fact or science and lacks all internal coherence. It is more like a religion. A nebulous belief system.

      4 replies 4 retweets 115 likes
    8.  🌹 💘 dr matt lodder  🤓 🌹‏Verified account @mattlodder Sep 19
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      Replying to @VictoriaPeckham @ShelaghFogarty

      That's a gear change and a different conversation. I've tried in good faith to help you out with what seems like a really basic misunderstanding or misrepresentation of our position, and where I think your error lies. I thought you were amenable to conversation. I tried.

      4 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. Janice Turner‏Verified account @VictoriaPeckham Sep 19
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      Replying to @mattlodder @ShelaghFogarty

      You have failed utterly to explain how gender identity is real. Other than being contingent upon internalised social stereotypes.

      4 replies 6 retweets 129 likes
    10. Sam Freedman‏ @Samfr Sep 19
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      Replying to @VictoriaPeckham @mattlodder @ShelaghFogarty

      I'm baffled as to how non-binary can have both an objective definition that excludes "gender non-conforming" yet be subjective enough to allow self-ID. Surely it's either completely self-defining or it has an objective definition?

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      Maya Forstater‏ @MForstater Sep 19
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      Replying to @Samfr @VictoriaPeckham and

      Yes. The same bafflement also applies to male and female, man and woman, no? Can they have objective definitions such that some people are objectively excluded from the category, or are they purely subjective identifications? https://rebeccarc.com/2018/01/14/some-basic-questions-about-sex-and-gender-for-progressives/ …pic.twitter.com/7msnnGnBch

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